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  • carlrocksandlennytoo
    Hello, I am just worried about my little boy carl. I posted a message earlier that he might have an enlarged heart. I am still waiting to hear the results from
    Message 1 of 2 , Jun 1, 2003
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      Hello,

      I am just worried about my little boy carl. I posted a message earlier that he
      might have an enlarged heart. I am still waiting to hear the results from carl's
      xrays from a specialist which my vet gave them to for looking at. Here is my
      post I left on a differnt board and I wonder if these things could be indicative of
      a heart problem:

      Hello,
      Kitty Carl just is not feeling good. We have been through: a shot of penicillin
      and two antibiotic perscriptions for URI. He has been doing alot better but
      than he came down with a watery eye which did not go away in a few days.
      He went to the vet and now we are doing eye medication twice a day. (no
      ulcer in the eye, just irritated i guess). He also has had a bit of direaha. (not
      completely runny but not compact... he has eaten and continues to eat fancy
      feast and purina pro plan kitten food). He has not thrown up until tonight. After
      running around he puked just a little (the size of 25c quarter) of his dinner he
      ate a couple hours prior. (not the whole dinner, just a tiny little bit). Carl just
      saw the vet today for his eye. He did not have a fever. He does have to wear a
      silly plate around his head to prevent him from rubbing his eye. It is definately
      not so comfortable and i think the cause for the puke (given it was very small
      amount right after play). Carl was pretty tired today after the visit to the vet. He
      did play when he got home, but after that it was eat and sleep all day. He did
      get up to eat both of his meals and finished but most of the day was spent
      sleeping. He is still gaining weight. He has gained sinsce seeing the vet on
      monday ( today is saturday) another 1-1/2oz. He is sleeping more than
      normal with short but very active spells of play etc. in between. I have not
      heard back on Carls xrays for a possible enlarged heart yet. Should Carl be
      feeling like this? He seems to just be under the weather for about a month
      now. Different ailments. Does URI just have an evil lingering effect? Carl still
      plays, eats, drinks and uses the litter box in a normal fashion. He just can't
      seem to feel up to par. He is going to a second vet already (who I feel very
      confident in as she seems to take all the right steps I can see). Today she
      perscribed an ointment for his eye but did not want to perscribe another
      antibiotic. She wanted to see if the eye would heal first with just the ointment
      given that Carl did not have a fever. She is also awaiting the answers to Carls
      heart xrays from a specialist. I dont know if I should seek other alternative ie
      the emergency vet specialists who are very expensive... i do not mind
      spending the money if I have too... Carl's condition does not seem critical but I
      do not want to sit around while or if it progresses. it just seems that once one
      problem gets better and another arises. Should I call about puke... even in just
      a tiny amount or wait and see if it goes away?
      Poor little kitty Carl.... He just wants to feel good, be happy, and kick lenny's
      butt:)
      Could all of these symptoms combined indicate anything? Does anyone know
      if a heart problem could such continued symptoms or allow URI to hang
      around longer?
      Thanks so much for answering my questions!
      Nicole - happy mom of Carl and Lenny
    • Sally J.Smith
      Hi Nicole, I m sorry that little Carl is not feeling well. It is so difficult to be a caregiver sometimes, especially when something as mysterious as heart
      Message 2 of 2 , Jun 1, 2003
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        Hi Nicole,

        I'm sorry that little Carl is not feeling well. It is so difficult
        to be a caregiver sometimes, especially when something as mysterious
        as heart disease may be on the horizon. I know you are very concerned
        and it sounds like you are doing everything for him at the moment.

        While x-rays can be helpful in spotting an enlarged heart, or
        possible fluid build-ups, what most folks have done is what is called
        an echo-cardiogram or ultrasound. After reviewing the x-rays your vet
        should be able to determine whether this is the next step or not.

        Many kitties will have NO symptoms at all so it is often difficult
        to tell anything by how the kitty is "feeling". How old is Carl? I'm
        sorry if you've already mentioned it, I don't read all the posts. The
        general patterns for heart disease are quite different depending on
        the age of the kitty involved.

        The good news is that there are many good drugs available now to
        help our kits with heart disease. Your Carl sounds as if he is
        normally strong and fit so this is also a good sign. Perhaps he just
        has been battling a cold virus, hence the runny eyes. When my kits get
        this sort of problem, I reach for the suppliment bottles to help their
        own immune systems...I give them extra vit E and CoQ10 and I also add
        250mg of L-Lysine to their food for a few days. This usually clears
        things up.

        Just like humans, kitties go thru spells of not feeling well for a
        variety of reasons...but when you are waiting for potentially
        challenging news from the vet, I know that suddenly EVERY little
        sneeze or extra hour of nap can suddenly become an issue for concern!
        Try to relax and just take this one day at a time :-) IF it is
        heart disease, you will be in for a life-altering journey of
        caregiving for your Carl and there will be many ups and downs along
        the way...but for all the anguish, there are also great rewards as we
        get more "in tune" with our kits than ever before.

        On the practical level; knowledge is power...check out all the
        extra reading here on this site and all the various links. Once your
        vet gets back to you about the x-rays, you may want to ask for an
        ultrasound with a cardiologist. This is really the best and most
        in-depth way to analyze the condition of the kits heart. The cost does
        vary depending on where you live but generally it is around $250-300.
        If you have any doubts and can afford it, this might give you the best
        peace of mind.

        Once you've seen a cardiologist you will then know better how to
        proceed. There are many different "kinds" of heart disease and
        treatment plans vary accordingly...but there are general issues that
        we all face and have to deal with. This group can be a great place for
        that kind of support...though sometimes it takes us a while to
        respond! <sheepish grin> so just post again like you did and hopefully
        we'll do better!

        I know you are very concerned about Carl...hopefully your vet will
        have some good news but if you are still concerned, I recommend seeing
        a cardiologist, just to be sure. If you find that you are going to
        take this route, let us know and we can talk about what questions to
        ask her/him. Sometimes it's easy to forget stuff when we are getting
        difficult news....it's best to have things written down and to also
        write down the answers when we get them!

        Also, this group is good with "numbers"...by that I mean that we
        all have learned how to interpret (in a VERY general way) the results
        from blood work. If your vet does recommend this for Carl, be sure to
        get copies of his results and let us know what his "numbers" are.

        Please keep us posted, and hang in there....antibiotics can make
        some cats feel very crummy. The important things to look for if you
        are concerned about a heart related CRISIS are: "blue" lips, gums or
        pads (decreased oxygen in the blood), laboured and rapid breathing (I
        mean really laboured, like he can't "catch" his breath), a deep
        gurgling or squishy sound in his lungs, very rapid heart rate not due
        to exercise, or, sudden paralysis in any of his legs. This last
        could indicate a possible blood clot and he needs IMMEDIATE attention
        if this is the case. These are all the worst case indicators...and I
        don't mean to scare you, but these are what we are all on alert for in
        our kits...but even if any one of these things happen, there are still
        possible treatments available to try, so, stay positive. Sometimes the
        only and first warning of feline heart disease that we get is a
        crisis event and many folks here will tell you that their kitties have
        recovered and now, with treatment are living reasonably happy and
        comfortable lives.

        I hope this helps and I hope Carl is feeling better soon. And
        while this group is a wonderful refuge, I hope they won't mind if I
        say that my wish for you is that after you get your news from the vet,
        that you won't be needing us at all! :-)

        Take care,

        Sally






        --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, "carlrocksandlennytoo"
        <nicolefagin@h...> wrote:
        > Hello,
        >
        > I am just worried about my little boy carl. I posted a message
        earlier that he
        > might have an enlarged heart. I am still waiting to hear the results
        from carl's
        > xrays from a specialist which my vet gave them to for looking at.
        Here is my
        > post I left on a differnt board and I wonder if these things could
        be indicative of
        > a heart problem:
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