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  • brunobaby
    Pongo s EKG this morning was no better than last week s, and no worse. We have to double the Inderal from 1/4 to 1/2 a pill twice a day and bring him back next
    Message 1 of 4 , Dec 2, 2000
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      Pongo's EKG this morning was no better than last week's, and no worse.

      We have to double the Inderal from 1/4 to 1/2 a pill twice a day and
      bring him back next Saturday.

      I asked the vet exactly what the purpose was of the Inderal. He said
      that there were two benefits: it improves the circulation and regulates
      the heartbeat.

      We can see the improvement in the circulation already, and that's a good
      sign. Pongo's been more vivid this week, he's had a voracious appetite,
      and he's even lost a little of the "scrawny old man" look he's had for
      the past few months.

      So it's not exactly *great* news, but it's not unprecedented. We had a
      similar crisis fourteen months ago, shortly after he was diagnosed. He
      was losing muscle mass quickly and he had fluid in his lungs. We upped
      the Lasix and the fluid cleared up, and so far hasn't returned, and we
      started him on Winstrol, which improved the muscle mass. And I thought
      we were going to lose him *then*, but he's still here and nosy as ever.

      Also, it doesn't surprise me that he needs a larger dose of anything.
      He's a BIG cat -- 16 lbs. in his prime and 13 as a scrawny old man.

      And the vet said today that he's treated cats older than 16 and with
      worse HCM who were also termed "End Stage," who lasted comfortably for
      months.

      So nobody can make a definite prognosis right now -- cats don't come
      with an expiration date -- but we're optimistic that we're on the right
      track.

      --Melinda
    • Voula Augerinos
      Good news about Pongo seeming brighter. I am very happy that he is peppier. I had written to the hyperT group about energy levels, and co-incidentally received
      Message 2 of 4 , Dec 2, 2000
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        Good news about Pongo seeming brighter. I am very happy that he is peppier.
        I had written to the hyperT group about energy levels, and
        co-incidentally received the post about Pongo even though I hadn't written
        to this group about Pebbles' energy levels.
        Pebbles has been on Inderal (one quarter tablet twice a day) for about
        6 weeks. I haven't noticed any increase in energy like Pongo. I do notice
        she seems calmer and less bothered, and her breathing seems smoother too
        (though the vet didn't think the occasional exagerrated breathing was from
        her heart). He said it could be a bronchial thing and Inderal can relax the
        airways. I thought I had read that Inderal shouldn't be given with asthma.
        Pebbles doesn't have asthma though. It was the general vet I spoke to.
        Perhaps I should call the specialist who prescribed the Inderal and ask him
        all these questions.
        I wonder why different cats with HCM are prescribed different drugs? I
        have heard some good things about diltiazem several times and am curious
        about whether this might be good for Pebbles.
        Does anyone know the different actions of different medications given
        for HCM?
        Love, Voula and Pebbles and Lucy and my Beautiful Angel Sachie.

        > We can see the improvement in the circulation already, and that's a good
        > sign. Pongo's been more vivid this week, he's had a voracious appetite,
        > and he's even lost a little of the "scrawny old man" look he's had for
        > the past few months.
      • Voula Augerinos
        Dear Helen, thanks Helen. I will check out your web site. What was the question about CoQ10 and taurine? I will try to help. Love, Voula and Pebbles and Lucy
        Message 3 of 4 , Dec 3, 2000
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          Dear Helen,
          thanks Helen. I will check out your web site. What was the question
          about CoQ10 and taurine? I will try to help.
          Love, Voula and Pebbles and Lucy and my Beautiful Angel Sachie.

          http://www.geocities.com/vaugerinos/
          (Sachie's tribute page, and photos of Sachie and Pebbles.)

          > > Does anyone know the different actions of different medications
          given
          > > for HCM?
          >
          > See my website, Related Diseases, second disease down (after hyperT).
          >
          > Now is anybody going to answer my question about CoQ10 and Taurine from
          last
          > Wednesday?
        • Jonathan Rosenberg
          Here s what I know about taurine: 1) A taurine deficiency can cause severe heart problems, particularly dilated cardiomyopathy. 2) Taurine deficiency is rare
          Message 4 of 4 , Dec 3, 2000
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            Here's what I know about taurine:

            1) A taurine deficiency can cause severe heart problems, particularly
            dilated cardiomyopathy.

            2) Taurine deficiency is rare in non-ferals, since all commercial cat food
            now containts adequate levels of taurine (this was not true many years ago).
            Lynx's cardiologist suggested that it wasn't worth worrying about, unless
            your cat is eating primarily a non-cat-specific diet (e.g., people food).
            (I'm not 100% sure about raw diets, but I believe that meat contains LOTS of
            taurine, so there's no problem there, either.)

            3) There's no harm in adding taurine to the cat's diet (check with your vet
            for dosage).

            4) If it has an affect, it would show up on ECGs.

            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: Helen [mailto:helenandcats@...]
            > Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2000 4:13 AM
            > To: feline-heart@egroups.com
            > Subject: Re: [feline-heart] Mixed Pongo News
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            > Voula wrote
            > > Does anyone know the different actions of different
            > medications given
            > > for HCM?
            >
            > See my website, Related Diseases, second disease down (after hyperT).
            >
            > Now is anybody going to answer my question about CoQ10 and
            > Taurine from last
            > Wednesday?
            >
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