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RE: [FH] Re: Teeth cleaning

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  • Sheila Monti
    Thanks Pam, that is encouraging. My vet is already certified for dental and has a degree from Tufts in cardiology for felines. I will bring this printout
    Message 1 of 6 , Apr 2, 2003
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      Thanks Pam, that is encouraging. My vet is already certified for dental and has a degree from Tufts in cardiology for felines. I will bring this printout with me. It always helps to let the Vet know you are not completely in the dark and that you've done research. Thanks again. Sheila & Felix.


      Pam Vojtas <pam.vojtas@...> wrote:Sheila,
      Attached is a mail message I sent to the CRF site a few weeks ago, following a teeth cleaning for my early-CRF boy, Mr Peep. It may help for any "compromised" kitty who needs a little extra special attention.

      Pam

      Just wanted to relay the story of Mr Peep's trip to the dentist yesterday. He is early CRF and needed a dental, so I took the group's recommendation and located a board certified Veterinary Dental specialist (Dr. X, only one in South Florida). He has a state of the art office, all
      the bells and whistles and 3 BP machines. Peep had "before and after" photos taken and received a complimentary toothbrush and toothpaste! See http://www.avdonline.org/avdmembers.html for Vet Dentist in your area.

      The Dr. spent a long time showing me how to care for Peep's teeth after the dental. He also explained the anesthesia procedure and assured me that he used NO ketamine (injected anesthesia). Instead, Mr Peep was initially put in a large "gassed fish tank", followed with isoflurane. His BP and EKG were monitored during the procedure. End result, Mr Peep has a beautiful set of "pearly whites" and came home feeling frisky and ready for dinner. His younger sister recently had a dental at the regular Vet who used Ketamine and came home staggering and woozie for over 24 hours! And more good news for Mr Peep: the BP was great (70/120) and the chest Xray showed everything to be normal. All in all, it was an excellent dental adventure (well, except Mommy's purse hurts - over $400!).

      I would highly recommend a certified Vet dentist for a CRF kitty if you can find one in your area.

      Pam, Mr Peep, Mollie, Little Cat, Cowgirl Kitty, Max the GiantSchnauzerCat, and Angel Maggie

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Sheila Monti [mailto:shemae519@...]
      Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 8:24 AM
      To: feline-heart@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [FH] Re: Teeth cleaning



      Thanks Dana,
      Felix has been stabilized for 4 years. My vet has a certificate in feline cardiology. She brought Felix's test to Tufts with her for free when he was diagnosed, so I do trust her a lot . She has left the teeth cleaning up to me entirely and lately I'm thinking that he should get them done because they now have anesthesia that is much safer than 4 years ago. I hate to see him get a second condition because I let his teeth go. He won't let me near them to brush them, but giving him a pill is no problem, go figure!!

      "Dana Rulf (merlynsmama)" <drulf@...> wrote:HI Sheila,
      Merlyn (15 1/2, CRF & HCM) was diagnosed with both in mid-January.
      Our vet, Doc Mike said that once we got him stabilized (I loved that
      WHEN, not "if") on his meds for both diseases for at least a month,
      then we could evaluate whether or not we would have Merlyn's teeth
      cleaned. We are nearing that month mark right now, and will be
      talking to Doc Mike about it soon.
      So, I don't think teeth cleaning is ruled out, necessarily, but the
      vet was right to tell you there is always a risk with anesthesia.
      Talk to your vet some more, and see how comfortable you feel in
      another week or so. I am a firm believer in "trust your own
      instincts" and will be following my own gut in the near future.
      Keep us posted --
      Dana
      Merlyn & Tully


      --- In feline-heart@yahoogroups.com, Sheila Monti <shemae519@y...> wrote:
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      > Hi everyone, I hope this AM brings good news to the felines that are
      having difficulties.
      >
      > The postings made me think of something I've been pondering. My
      felix has very bad teeth. He has cardiomyopathy for 5 years and he is
      on 12.5mg of atenelol. I go to a very modern up to date vets and they
      have posted that they now have the most modern anesthesia available.
      My vet always says there is always a risk with any anesthesia and she
      would leave it up to me if I got his teeth cleaned.
      >
      > As you all probably know, bad gums can cause kidney problems in
      felines. I am weighing the odds. What would be more dangerous for
      Felix? I had a cat (Rocky) that had a murmur all his life and had no
      problems going under to get his teeth cleaned, but he did not have
      cardiomyopathy. When he was older the vet would not clean his teeth
      and he did develop renal failure. It could have been his age.
      >
      > Any experience out there? Has anyone had their cats teeth cleaned
      that also has heart problems? Or does anyone have a suggestion for an
      alternative for me? Thanks.
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    • mkratchman
      Hi everyone- I searched previous posts about teeth but couldn t find the exact answer pertaining to my question. My HCM kitty has very bad teeth. He was just
      Message 2 of 6 , Apr 4, 2007
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        Hi everyone-
        I searched previous posts about teeth but couldn't find the exact
        answer pertaining to my question.
        My HCM kitty has very bad teeth. He was just into the vet for
        bloodwork a few days ago and he's doing well, but he had a major teeth
        cleaning just last year and they're already back to being just as bad
        again. I tried to keep up with the brushing, but plaque seemed to just
        take over and at some point i couldn't do anything about it.
        SO
        The vet does not want to do a cleaning on Thumper again, thinks it's
        too risky. (Last time he did it was very quick, under a milder
        anesthetic even) I'm thinking i should keep up with brushing, to keep
        bacteria away as much as possible?

        What have you all done in this situation? Past the point of brushing
        helping...but too unsafe to do a full teeth clean?

        thanks!
        michelle & thumper
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