Re: [Fantasy Fiction Dungeon] (unknown)
- matt, you of all people should know that writing a "needling" comment
can be misconstrued easily. i still found the comment both snippy and
personal, and unnecessarily so. but i think you have a talent in
and i have known some bright people who have a hard time writing (and
not just in terms of using fundamentals like spelling and grammar),
but I think (and this is based on reading many types of writing) that
if you intend to be a writer, then you'd better have a firm grasp of
the tools. bright people who can't communicate well are often rejected
or underestimated, and that's a shame. and at some point, I do think
it's difficult to try and build a foundation if you missed the boat
early on. So I guess I do tend to think that excllent grammar and
spelling are based heavily in habit, and later become intuitive
skills. but you don't have to worry matt, you're not one of those
bright people (needling?).
--- In email@example.com, Matt Baker
> Well, i try not to be critical for the sake of being critical, butfor the sake of clarity and helping, though not always successful.
Actually, his misspelling wasn't a big issue, just an aside. I wasn't
trying to be snippy, just needling you a little bit. At least it
initiated an interesting discussion.
>misspelling are the same thing. Mabye true in the aforementioned case,
> As for dilemma, you are correct, Mark, but sometimes mistyping and
>matter? I know someone who can't spell to save their life, with their
> But exactly how important is spelling and grammar? Does it really
prose and exposition just rife with intrepid badness. Horrible,
horrible stuff. But their answer is: "First draft. Spellcheck later.
Grammar Check later. Bad spellers don't have to worry about good writing."
>spell correctly the first draft, there's no reason to assume your
> is that true? I've been told by professionials, that if you can't
writing is going to get better, especially using a spellcheck. Just
curious. There's different takes on this. I just don't see published
authors having misspellings left and right, even in a first draft. Do
you depend on spellcheck or do you have to know, intuitively, how to
> kaeolin <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> well, matt, i was merely pointing out that sometimes people are
> critical for the sake of being critical, including yourself (and yes,
> even me). You were afterall pointing out that his misspelling of
> critical showed a lack of rigor, right? somehow further undermining
> his writing. And I don't think being rigorous about writing, spelling,
> or thinking is ever a bad thing. And i see that "our relationship"
> whatever that is now has devolved into being snippy rather than just
> having conversations. wonderful.
> --- In email@example.com, Matt Baker
> <gauvaine@y...> wrote:
> > why am i not surprised you would point that out, seulky? I think you
> live for that sort of thing. Forgive my faux pas. I wasn't trying to
> be critical of his spelling, just the telling/showing dillema.
> > kaeolin <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:if you are going to be
> critical of someone else's misspelling you
> > should at least be able to spell the word correctly.
> > --- In email@example.com, "Matt" <gauvaine@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > stuck up and snob are usually the same, so it's redundant, and
> > > critical is mispelled, of course. you're telling and not showing.
> > > This is a classic example of that. Is there anyway to write it
> > > without telling that he's a stuck up snob?
> > >
> > > "His elitism shown like a beacon, is nose turned up so far in the
> > > that a person could see the empty space where his brain should
> > > been."
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In firstname.lastname@example.org, "Marc Vun Kannon"
> > > <marcvunkannon@e...> wrote:
> > > > >This is just an excerpt, but what is your opinion on this?
> > > >
> > > > He struck me as the sort of stuck up snob whose crtical
> articles I
> > > would never read.
> > > >
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>I've waited too long for him to get off his duffer andI thought the second was better than the first, story-wise, but hideously overwritten.
>write this series again.
>I'd rather see another Knight of the Word book.
>Or Terry Brooks writing a new Landover novel and getting away from
>these regurgitated Shannara books he's been cranking out the last 4
Marc Vun Kannon
Unbinding the Stone--making lemonade from fantasy lemons!
'Chasing His Own Tale'--Don't mess with the Damsel in Distress!