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  • Tim Joy
    ... They didn t work properly at all - size did, fon t didn t. It should now work properly. ... Cookies are set to .fanficauthors.net - so should be cross
    Message 1 of 15 , Dec 11, 2009
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      > 1) Site Options is only working on some sites. (It worked for Aaran
      > St. Vimes', Musings', and Bobmin's, but not for Kinsfire's.)

      They didn't work properly at all - size did, fon't didn't. It should
      now work properly.

      > 2) On a related note, would it be possible to make the "Site Options"
      > global instead of per-author?

      Cookies are set to ".fanficauthors.net" - so should be cross domain.
      I've just tested it in firefox, by setting the font and size on mine,
      and changing to to Crys'

      > 3) The FAQ answer for "How do I complain" is inaccurate, as there is
      > no contact info on jeconais.fanficauthors.net.

      Very true. This has been fixed - thanks for pointing it out.

      Tim
    • Jim Trigg
      ... Hrm. Currently, font size is working on musingsofapathy but not kinsfire; font is not working on either. (I set my font to Palatino and size to 12 point
      Message 2 of 15 , Dec 11, 2009
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        On Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Tim Joy <jeconais@...> wrote:
        >> 1) Site Options is only working on some sites. (It worked for Aaran
        >> St. Vimes', Musings', and Bobmin's, but not for Kinsfire's.)
        >
        > They didn't work properly at all - size did, fon't didn't.  It should
        > now work properly.

        Hrm. Currently, font size is working on musingsofapathy but not
        kinsfire; font is not working on either. (I set my font to Palatino
        and size to 12 point and the settings page reflected that; as soon as
        I went to a story it went back to a sans serif font, and on kinsfire
        got smaller.)

        Jim
      • josh fanfic
        I m not able to make the font size or typeface change permanent. It changes on the Site|Options page, but as soon as I try to do anything the change is lost.
        Message 3 of 15 , Dec 14, 2009
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          I'm not able to make the font size or typeface change permanent.  It changes on the Site|Options page, but as soon as I try to do anything the change is lost. 

          I've enabled cookies, JScript, and allow both FFA and GoogleAPIs . . . In FF3.5/Linux64bit, I allow pages to choose their own fonts. 

          I'm choosing on FFA the 11pt + Palatino.  As soon as I navigate to any other page, it reverts size + typeface to the FFA defaults, and returning to the Site|Options shows the changes are lost as well.

          Thoughts?

          Thanks for all your hard work.
        • Tim Joy
          As you seem to be somewhat knowledgable, can you have a look at the cookies you have for .fanficauthors.net and see if you have anything like ff or fs? The
          Message 4 of 15 , Dec 15, 2009
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            As you seem to be somewhat knowledgable, can you have a look at the cookies you have for .fanficauthors.net and see if you have anything like ff or fs?  The code runs on a jquery $(document),ready() and resizes the main content div with the values in the cookie.

            Tim

            On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 3:32 AM, josh fanfic <josh.fanfic@...> wrote:
             


            I'm not able to make the font size or typeface change permanent.  It changes on the Site|Options page, but as soon as I try to do anything the change is lost. 

            I've enabled cookies, JScript, and allow both FFA and GoogleAPIs . . . In FF3.5/Linux64bit, I allow pages to choose their own fonts. 

            I'm choosing on FFA the 11pt + Palatino.  As soon as I navigate to any other page, it reverts size + typeface to the FFA defaults, and returning to the Site|Options shows the changes are lost as well.

            Thoughts?

            Thanks for all your hard work.


          • Harold Ancell
            ... I also have FF 3.5 and Linux 64 bit (version I compiled myself + Debian lenny) and I ve got those cookies, and their contents are as I set the parameters
            Message 5 of 15 , Dec 15, 2009
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              At 02:47 AM 12/15/2009, Tim Joy wrote:


              >As you seem to be somewhat knowledgable, can you have a look at the cookies you have for .<http://fanficauthors.net>fanficauthors.net and see if you have anything like ff or fs? The code runs on a jquery $(document),ready() and resizes the main content div with the values in the cookie.

              I also have FF 3.5 and Linux 64 bit (version I compiled myself +
              Debian lenny) and I've got those cookies, and their contents
              are as I set the parameters (e.g. 18pt and times+new+roman) and
              only size changes are respected.

              Or only they *were* respected, now font changes are. Maybe you
              fixed this as I was checking it out and composing this message?

              - Harold
            • Tim Joy
              Nope - the code seems a bit dodgy for some people, and I have no idea why - it s really simple stuff... At least it is working. T.
              Message 6 of 15 , Dec 15, 2009
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                Nope - the code seems a bit dodgy for some people, and I have no idea why - it's really simple stuff...

                At least it is working.

                T.

                On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 12:49 PM, Harold Ancell <hga@...> wrote:
                 

                At 02:47 AM 12/15/2009, Tim Joy wrote:

                >As you seem to be somewhat knowledgable, can you have a look at the cookies you have for .<http://fanficauthors.net>fanficauthors.net and see if you have anything like ff or fs? The code runs on a jquery $(document),ready() and resizes the main content div with the values in the cookie.

                I also have FF 3.5 and Linux 64 bit (version I compiled myself +
                Debian lenny) and I've got those cookies, and their contents
                are as I set the parameters (e.g. 18pt and times+new+roman) and
                only size changes are respected.

                Or only they *were* respected, now font changes are. Maybe you
                fixed this as I was checking it out and composing this message?

                - Harold


              • josh fanfic
                I ve got all three cookies -- passhash, fs, and ff. All of these change appropriately when I change one of the keys -- font size, typeface, or my password. I
                Message 7 of 15 , Dec 15, 2009
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                  I've got all three cookies -- passhash, fs, and ff.  All of these change appropriately when I change one of the keys -- font size, typeface, or my password.  I also get prompted to modify cookies, so that much is all working fine.

                  It seems like some parts of the site _do_ honour the fs cookie (the font size jumped to 14pt on Bobmin's section), while others don't (Kokopelli's dropped back to standard).

                  None of the sections seem to honour the ff cookie.

                  Just to make things more interesting, if I change the settings while on Kokopelli's page, the fs then becomes honoured.  It still ignores ff, though.

                  Sorry I can't be more insightful for you.

                  Thanks!
                • Tim Joy
                  Can you do me a favour and give me a couple of urls of those that do and those that don t. It s possible that there are other things affecting it, and if I
                  Message 8 of 15 , Dec 15, 2009
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                    Can you do me a favour and give me a couple of urls of those that do and those that don't.  It's possible that there are other things affecting it, and if I can see the problem, I can fix it... (he said hopefully)

                    Cheers,

                    T.

                    On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 2:09 PM, josh fanfic <josh.fanfic@...> wrote:
                     


                    I've got all three cookies -- passhash, fs, and ff.  All of these change appropriately when I change one of the keys -- font size, typeface, or my password.  I also get prompted to modify cookies, so that much is all working fine.

                    It seems like some parts of the site _do_ honour the fs cookie (the font size jumped to 14pt on Bobmin's section), while others don't (Kokopelli's dropped back to standard).

                    None of the sections seem to honour the ff cookie.

                    Just to make things more interesting, if I change the settings while on Kokopelli's page, the fs then becomes honoured.  It still ignores ff, though.

                    Sorry I can't be more insightful for you.

                    Thanks!


                  • Jim Trigg
                    ... I have a partial answer -- for some reason, on my Linux system (which, as I finally discovered, does *not* have a Palatino Linotype font), setting the font
                    Message 9 of 15 , Dec 15, 2009
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                      On Tue, Dec 15, 2009 at 06:09:59AM -0800, josh fanfic wrote:
                      > I've got all three cookies -- passhash, fs, and ff. All of these
                      > change appropriately when I change one of the keys -- font size,
                      > typeface, or my password. I also get prompted to modify cookies, so
                      > that much is all working fine.
                      > It seems like some parts of the site _do_ honour the fs cookie (the
                      > font size jumped to 14pt on Bobmin's section), while others don't
                      > (Kokopelli's dropped back to standard).
                      > None of the sections seem to honour the ff cookie.
                      > Just to make things more interesting, if I change the settings while on
                      > Kokopelli's page, the fs then becomes honoured. It still ignores ff,
                      > though.
                      > Sorry I can't be more insightful for you.

                      I have a partial answer -- for some reason, on my Linux system (which,
                      as I finally discovered, does *not* have a Palatino Linotype font),
                      setting the font to Palatino Linotype gives a serif font on the settings
                      page but nowhere else (and not on the settings page if you go back
                      later). Setting to Georgia or Times New Roman (both of which my system
                      has) works flawlessly.

                      Jim
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                    • josh fanfic
                      ... So I ve been tinkering, trying to find patterns of reproducibility. In short, not much luck on my side. I ve tried viewing the site in the following
                      Message 10 of 15 , Dec 17, 2009
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                        Can you do me a favour and give me a couple of urls of those that do and those that don't.  It's possible that there are other things affecting it, and if I can see the problem, I can fix it... (he said hopefully)

                        So I've been tinkering, trying to find patterns of reproducibility.  In short, not much luck on my side.

                        I've tried viewing the site in the following browsers:

                        FF 3.5 / Linux x86-64 / FC12 or Ubuntu 9.10
                        FF 3.5 / Mac OS X.5 
                        Safari / Mac OS X.5

                        I actually do get slightly different behaviors, but the consistent pieces are these:

                        1) the main author listing page (www.fanficauthors.net) doesn't honor the size or the font style cookies.  (Speaking of which, why are account options not available on that page?)

                        2) I can get the font size to take effect, but not the font face _except_ Georgia and Monotype, beyond the default, which is odd.  Based on the other post regarding having fonts locally, I do have a Georgia font installed, but not a Monotype.  I have Times New Roman installed, too, and that one doesn't work.  In general, I have about 75% of the fonts installed that match name-for-name.

                        3) As an aside, on any of the "safe" fanficauthors pages, when you click More Authors, you get the subset of 4 authors in that category, not all the site authors.  That's a bit backwards relative to the other authors and how the link works (showing all).  The only way to get all authors listed again is to click on the hidden link on the FFA.net banner.  Is this intentional, oversight, or . . . ?

                        Thoughts?  Or just carry on and forget about it?

                        One thing I miss about the old code is that I could get the entire author update grid on my screen at one time.  With the new site, the templates and font sizes and whitespace use make it outright impossible.  That's one of the big reasons I keep trying to make this work.

                        Thanks!
                      • Tim Joy
                        ... Right... that may be because it has the wrong div id - I ll look into that. It s not had the account features, because in the end, the page is just a hack.
                        Message 11 of 15 , Dec 22, 2009
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                          > 1) the main author listing page (www.fanficauthors.net) doesn't honor the size or the font style cookies.  (Speaking of which, why are account options not available on that page?)

                          Right... that may be because it has the wrong div id - I'll look into that.

                          It's not had the account features, because in the end, the page is
                          just a hack. However, a lot more people seem to use it than I
                          thought, so maybe it is time to have a look at it. Adding the user
                          features would be easy enough (just a case of adding the module).
                          It's times like this that I wish I was more of a designer.

                          > 2) I can get the font size to take effect, but not the font face _except_ Georgia and Monotype, beyond the default, which is odd.  Based on the other post regarding having fonts locally, I do have a Georgia font installed, but not a Monotype.  I have Times New Roman installed, too, and that one doesn't work.  In general, I have about 75% of the fonts installed that match name-for-name.

                          I think I'm going to need to rewrite the whole font stuff. It clearly
                          isn't fit for purpose, so I'll do some research and see what I can
                          come up with.

                          > 3) As an aside, on any of the "safe" fanficauthors pages, when you click More Authors, you get the subset of 4 authors in that category, not all the site authors.  That's a bit backwards relative to the other authors and how the link works (showing all).  The only way to get all authors listed again is to click on the hidden link on the FFA.net banner.  Is this intentional, oversight, or . . . ?

                          It's actually always been that way - a little unbalanced. Basically,
                          some of the NSNS authors were unhappy with the page linking to non
                          NSNS authors. They wanted to ensure that kids could click around with
                          a degree of safety.

                          > One thing I miss about the old code is that I could get the entire author update grid on my screen at one time.  With the new site, the templates and font sizes and whitespace use make it outright impossible.  That's one of the big reasons I keep trying to make this work.

                          I had to increase the height because some of the authors were using
                          incredibly long names, and I wanted to add a couple of links. As I
                          said above, it's probably time for some sort of redesign on the
                          homepage.

                          Tim
                        • josh fanfic
                          It may not be related, but Bobmin s latest chapter of Mutant Storm has all the headings as strikethrough . . . which is a bit odd. The prior chapter doesn t
                          Message 12 of 15 , Dec 22, 2009
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                            It may not be related, but Bobmin's latest chapter of Mutant Storm has all the headings as strikethrough . . . which is a bit odd.  The prior chapter doesn't do that -- I just checked.

                            Is this a problem with his upload, my display, or the underlying font headaches?

                          • Harry
                            It also doesn t have a printer friendly mode and you can t changethe font size.
                            Message 13 of 15 , Dec 22, 2009
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                              It also doesn't have a printer friendly mode and you can't changethe font size.

                              --- In fanficauthors@yahoogroups.com, Tim Joy <jeconais@...> wrote:
                              >
                              > > 1) the main author listing page (www.fanficauthors.net) doesn't honor the size or the font style cookies.  (Speaking of which, why are account options not available on that page?)
                              >
                              > Right... that may be because it has the wrong div id - I'll look into that.
                              >
                              > It's not had the account features, because in the end, the page is
                              > just a hack. However, a lot more people seem to use it than I
                              > thought, so maybe it is time to have a look at it. Adding the user
                              > features would be easy enough (just a case of adding the module).
                              > It's times like this that I wish I was more of a designer.
                              >
                              > > 2) I can get the font size to take effect, but not the font face _except_ Georgia and Monotype, beyond the default, which is odd.  Based on the other post regarding having fonts locally, I do have a Georgia font installed, but not a Monotype.  I have Times New Roman installed, too, and that one doesn't work.  In general, I have about 75% of the fonts installed that match name-for-name.
                              >
                              > I think I'm going to need to rewrite the whole font stuff. It clearly
                              > isn't fit for purpose, so I'll do some research and see what I can
                              > come up with.
                              >
                              > > 3) As an aside, on any of the "safe" fanficauthors pages, when you click More Authors, you get the subset of 4 authors in that category, not all the site authors.  That's a bit backwards relative to the other authors and how the link works (showing all).  The only way to get all authors listed again is to click on the hidden link on the FFA.net banner.  Is this intentional, oversight, or . . . ?
                              >
                              > It's actually always been that way - a little unbalanced. Basically,
                              > some of the NSNS authors were unhappy with the page linking to non
                              > NSNS authors. They wanted to ensure that kids could click around with
                              > a degree of safety.
                              >
                              > > One thing I miss about the old code is that I could get the entire author update grid on my screen at one time.  With the new site, the templates and font sizes and whitespace use make it outright impossible.  That's one of the big reasons I keep trying to make this work.
                              >
                              > I had to increase the height because some of the authors were using
                              > incredibly long names, and I wanted to add a couple of links. As I
                              > said above, it's probably time for some sort of redesign on the
                              > homepage.
                              >
                              > Tim
                              >
                            • Tim Joy
                              It doesn t need one -as it uses @print in the css. Yes you can.
                              Message 14 of 15 , Dec 23, 2009
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                                It doesn't need one -as it uses @print in the css.

                                Yes you can.

                                On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 4:01 AM, Harry <knight902001@...> wrote:
                                 

                                It also doesn't have a printer friendly mode and you can't changethe font size.



                                --- In fanficauthors@yahoogroups.com, Tim Joy <jeconais@...> wrote:
                                >
                                > > 1) the main author listing page (www.fanficauthors.net) doesn't honor the size or the font style cookies.  (Speaking of which, why are account options not available on that page?)
                                >
                                > Right... that may be because it has the wrong div id - I'll look into that.
                                >
                                > It's not had the account features, because in the end, the page is
                                > just a hack. However, a lot more people seem to use it than I
                                > thought, so maybe it is time to have a look at it. Adding the user
                                > features would be easy enough (just a case of adding the module).
                                > It's times like this that I wish I was more of a designer.
                                >
                                > > 2) I can get the font size to take effect, but not the font face _except_ Georgia and Monotype, beyond the default, which is odd.  Based on the other post regarding having fonts locally, I do have a Georgia font installed, but not a Monotype.  I have Times New Roman installed, too, and that one doesn't work.  In general, I have about 75% of the fonts installed that match name-for-name.
                                >
                                > I think I'm going to need to rewrite the whole font stuff. It clearly
                                > isn't fit for purpose, so I'll do some research and see what I can
                                > come up with.
                                >
                                > > 3) As an aside, on any of the "safe" fanficauthors pages, when you click More Authors, you get the subset of 4 authors in that category, not all the site authors.  That's a bit backwards relative to the other authors and how the link works (showing all).  The only way to get all authors listed again is to click on the hidden link on the FFA.net banner.  Is this intentional, oversight, or . . . ?
                                >
                                > It's actually always been that way - a little unbalanced. Basically,
                                > some of the NSNS authors were unhappy with the page linking to non
                                > NSNS authors. They wanted to ensure that kids could click around with
                                > a degree of safety.
                                >
                                > > One thing I miss about the old code is that I could get the entire author update grid on my screen at one time.  With the new site, the templates and font sizes and whitespace use make it outright impossible.  That's one of the big reasons I keep trying to make this work.
                                >
                                > I had to increase the height because some of the authors were using
                                > incredibly long names, and I wanted to add a couple of links. As I
                                > said above, it's probably time for some sort of redesign on the
                                > homepage.
                                >
                                > Tim
                                >


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