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Re: [APM] Re: http://www.agileconference.org/organisers.asp

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  • Sinan Si Alhir
    ... Actually, Agility (and especially Business Agility ) pre-dates XP, etc. ... From: To: ;
    Message 1 of 1 , May 8, 2004
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      > I find it interesting that the DSDM community has upped the bar to include
      > business

      Actually, "Agility" (and especially "Business Agility") pre-dates XP, etc.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: <acockburn@...>
      To: <agilechairs2004@yahoogroups.com>;
      <agileprojectmanagement@yahoogroups.com>;
      <extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 12:03 PM
      Subject: [APM] Re: http://www.agileconference.org/organisers.asp


      > In a message dated 5/8/2004 10:09:06 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
      > @yahoogroups.com writes:
      >
      > >> Agile Business Conference:
      > >> http://www.agileconference.org/organisers.asp
      > >> note the URL and the organizers!!!
      >
      > > yes. a very sore point.
      >
      > --->
      >
      > On the one hand, I understand the surprise and dismay ...
      > on the other hand, which I take as the more important, this is just
      "business
      > as usual."
      >
      > I am not terribly sympathetic to the view of "we got here first, the stage
      > belongs to us, stop diluting the brand, etc etc." which has surfaced in
      the
      > various agile subgroups when faced with a bit of creative competition.
      > In business, competition is the order of the day. Someone has a cuter
      idea,
      > moves faster, is better linked with the sources of money and power, etc
      etc.
      > This is how XP and Agile got started in the first place.
      >
      > I find it interesting that the DSDM community has upped the bar to include
      > business, has nabbed the generic Agile Conference URL, and moved ahead in
      some
      > dimension.
      > But is that bad or wicked?
      > No, they intend to installing the same or similar concepts as the rest of
      us,
      > and if they succeed, then the entire world will be better off. So bully
      for
      > them, as they say.
      > If anyone is unhappy, it is now up to them to invent the next move in the
      > game ....
      >
      >
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      >
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      >
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      > "Surviving Object-Oriented Projects" (1998)
      > "Writing Effective Use Cases" (Jolt Productivity Award 2001)
      > "Agile Software Development" (Jolt Productivity Award 2002)
      >
      > "La perfection est atteinte non quand il ne reste rien a ajouter,
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