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Re: CMM(I) and XP

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  • Hillel Glazer, Entinex, The Technology S
    (Sorry, folks, about the lazy subject line earlier.) Alistair, your 2 points may be true, but that s a different matter from whether or not these compliance
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      (Sorry, folks, about the lazy subject line earlier.)

      Alistair, your 2 points may be true, but that's a different matter from
      whether or not these 'compliance' criteria /can/ be met.

      --
      Hillel Glazer, Principal
      Entinex
      The Technology Strategy Company
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      ----- Original Message -----
      Sent: Tuesday, 30 September, 2003 07:06
      Subject: [XP] Digest Number 3657
      Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:17:46 -0000
      From: "aacockburn" <acockburn@...>
      Subject: Re: Digest Number 3653

      --- In extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com, "Hillel Glazer, Entinex,
      The Technology Strategy Company" <online@e...> wrote:
      > CMM/CMMI is big on "institutionalizing" the processes within an
      organization. That just means making sure that people know what to
      do, how to do it, and when.
      > But in brass tacks... if I were appraising an XP shop, here's how
      it would go down:
      > - "if a new hire comes in that's never done XP, how do you teach
      them XP and about the management of the projects?"
      > - "what materials or approach do you use to train the new hires?"
      >
      > in CMMI, the separation in monitoring needs only be as "far" as
      someone who the PM doesn't hold administrative or technical sway,...

      Let's see if I can recap this in words I am more likely to use later:
      --->For an XP group to pass CMMI level 3 certification, they need
      ---> to show that someone NOT in the direct PM control chain
      ---> is monitoring whether or not the group is doing XP,
      ---> AND the monitoring person has to return a positive result.

      I claim that
      (1) There are no XP projects in the world where someone
      outside the direct PM control chain is actively monitoring
      whether the group is doing XP, and
      (2) No monitor anywhere in the world knows if any group is doing
      XP anyway (because there are no accepted compliance criteria).


      Alistair
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