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Re: Is RUP Agile? - metaprocess

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  • acockburn@aol.com
    In a message dated 9/1/2003 9:42:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time, extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com writes: Another view would that there must be a process for
    Message 1 of 1 , Sep 1, 2003
      In a message dated 9/1/2003 9:42:12 AM Mountain Daylight Time,
      extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com writes:

      Another view would that there must be a process for creating an instance of
      RUP, even if that process is not defined other than by instructions,
      manuals, help screens, and consulting services. That process would be a
      software development process process, or meta-process. The question then
      becomes how agile that meta-process is.
      ---> RUP contains the notion of a "development case", which is exactly what
      you are asking for. Performing the Development Case to reduce the RUP
      encyclopedia to the process for your team is the FIRST STEP in the RUP process.

      Almost nobody does that step (because they
      (a) don't know how to
      (b) don't care
      (c) don't know how to do it in a light / agile / economic fashion ),
      which causes a neat little catch-22
      -- if they don't do the development case, they aren't doing RUP
      -- if they don't do the development case, they are most likely to fail in
      their project because they are doing the full RUP encyclopedia, which is much too
      heavy. So they "fail while doing RUP" because they aren't doing RUP.
      -- if they don't do the development and manage to succeed in their project,
      it is almost certainly because they didn't follow their process
      (full-encyclopedia-RUP). So they "succeed while doing RUP" because they aren't doing RUP !

      I can't work out the logic pattern of those last two sentences....


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      Alistair Cockburn

      "La perfection est atteinte non quand il ne reste rien a ajouter,
      mais quand il ne reste rien a enlever." (Saint-Exupery)
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