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  • tranzpupy
    Hi, Dossy, ... well, too. ... Yes. You are right. Kay
    Message 1 of 52 , Jul 1, 2002
      Hi, Dossy,

      --- In extremeprogramming@y..., Dossy <dossy@p...> wrote:
      > On 2002.06.30, Kay A. Pentecost <tranzpupy@i...> wrote:
      > > Oh, Cool.
      > >
      > > I might try this....uh... no, I will try that.
      > >
      > > Sounds like overhead projector sheets and markers would work
      well, too.
      > Right. Anything that's not opaque that can be layered.
      > Overhead projector sheets are far more costly than tracing paper
      > and markers cannot be easily erased like pencil on tracing paper.
      > That increases the Cost of Change curve which makes mistakes more
      > costly ...
      > Also, overhead projector sheets might make people insist that in
      > order to properly present the content, an overhead projector, a
      > dim room and a large white surface is required -- DTSTTCPW ...

      Yes. You are right.

    • Dossy
      ... One of my projects current Customer is just that: a person from a graphic arts background. He s actually one of the most talented pixel jockeys I ve ever
      Message 52 of 52 , Jul 1, 2002
        On 2002.07.01, geoff_sobering <geoff_sobering@...> wrote:
        > Just FYI, the use of tracing paper as an overlay is pretty common in
        > the graphic arts business. Very often it's used to show the layout
        > of graphical elements (text, etc.) on a photograph; often the overlay
        > will contain a combination of graphical-elements, comments about
        > their placement, and/or descriptons of other manipulations to the
        > base image. As people here have pointed out, in the hands of a good
        > practioner it's a very rapid method to create a representation of a
        > complex graphical object.

        One of my projects current Customer is just that: a person from a
        graphic arts background. He's actually one of the most talented
        pixel jockeys I've ever had the pleasure of working with -- truly
        talented artist.

        He actually had custom paper pads printed with nothing but a blank
        browser window in black and white (MS IE, to be specific). He then
        takes those and hand-draws webpages into it for storyboards. Then
        lays tracing paper over and annotates the webpages. A picture
        truly is worth a thousand words of documentation and his stuff
        definitely communicates well and it's a technique I'd urge any
        team whose project includes building a UI (web or otherwise!) to
        use this technique as a way of rapidly prototyping the UI.

        > Sadly, my drawing skills aren't up to the task, and I'm forced to use
        > heavier-weight tools when I have to do graphical designs...

        You can't draw squares and write text inside them? ;-)

        You know, older programmers all come equipped with a flowchart template:
        a little plastic doohickey with various standard shapes cut out which
        can be used to uniformly draw squares, triangles, ovals, rectangles,
        arrow heads ... if you consider that "heavier-weight" then fine, but
        even for my clumsy non-artistic hands they work great for drawing

        Maybe I'm just too old-skool ...

        > BTW, compared with the seemingly ubiquitous requirement for an LCD
        > projector at meetings, an overhead projector seems a pretty simple
        > way to share an overlayed document...

        Indeed. On one hand, you have a $3,000 laptop and a 1800 ANSI lumen
        projector for $9,000 ... vs a light bulb, a white wall and a bunch
        of overhead transparencies for a couple bucks or a ream of tracing
        paper and a few pencils for a couple bucks ...

        No wonder why company burn rates for capital is ridiculous these
        days ...

        -- Dossy

        Dossy Shiobara mail: dossy@...
        Panoptic Computer Network web: http://www.panoptic.com/
        "He realized the fastest way to change is to laugh at your own
        folly -- then you can let go and quickly move on." (p. 70)
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