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If coach is a programmer, where do I fit in?

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  • jkinghorn@installinc.com
    I am a Process Specialist. My background is in ISO 9000. I have been introducing the Rational Unified Process here, but the feeling is that the process has
    Message 1 of 3 , May 1, 2000
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      I am a Process Specialist. My background is in ISO 9000. I have
      been introducing the Rational Unified Process here, but the feeling
      is that the process has too much overhead (tools, training,
      documentation). I was looking for a lighter software engineering
      process and found XP. I think XP might be a good choice for us.
      But, it seems to be very much a grass roots sort of process. If the
      coach shouldn't be a non-programmer, where do I fit in? I have done
      some programming in the past, should I do some programming on the
      side so I can better prove the worth of XP with examples? How should
      I introduce XP? Start with Refactoring and Unit Tests and go from
      there?
    • John Wetherbie
      You are approaching this question from the other direction that I was... I am a programmer and they want me to be the Coach on a project. My concern was that I
      Message 2 of 3 , May 1, 2000
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        You are approaching this question from the other direction that I
        was...

        I am a programmer and they want me to be the Coach on a project. My
        concern was that I wouldn't be able to do any coding. In reading Kent
        Beck's book regarding the Coach role there is no mention of coding.
        The Coach is more responsible for the process.

        Since you yourself mention that XP is a grass roots process why
        shouldn't you be able to be a Coach?
      • jkinghorn@installinc.com
        ... Kent ... I guess I was thinking that if it comes from the process person, it s not grass roots any more.
        Message 3 of 3 , May 1, 2000
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          --- In extremeprogramming@egroups.com, "John Wetherbie" <john@d...>
          wrote:
          > You are approaching this question from the other direction that I
          > was...
          >
          > I am a programmer and they want me to be the Coach on a project. My
          > concern was that I wouldn't be able to do any coding. In reading
          Kent
          > Beck's book regarding the Coach role there is no mention of coding.
          > The Coach is more responsible for the process.
          >
          > Since you yourself mention that XP is a grass roots process why
          > shouldn't you be able to be a Coach?

          I guess I was thinking that if it comes from the process person, it's
          not grass roots any more.
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