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Re: [XP] Collective Ownership

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  • Adam Sroka
    ... I forgot to add the relevant part: In that situation the blame is often put on the team, Why don t you just do XP? Then they hire someone like you or me
    Message 1 of 21 , Aug 16, 2012
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      On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:37 PM, Adam Sroka <adam.sroka@...> wrote:
      > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Curtis Cooley
      > <curtis@...> wrote:
      >>
      >>
      >>
      >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 1:24 PM, Adam Sroka <adam.sroka@...> wrote:
      >>
      >> > Talking may be the first and most important step but it's no panacea.
      >> > I think you need something to align to like a backlog or preferrably a
      >> > shared vision. Then you can ask, "How would I take a much smaller step
      >> > and still make progress towards that?"
      >> >
      >> I can agree with this, especially the much smaller steps. I certainly can
      >> see taking a little time to create a high level plan and keeping it in
      >> view. "With what we know at this moment, we think we should be working
      >> towards <design>"
      >>
      >
      > We're venturing off topic a bit, but...
      >
      > Something I observed while working with big clients: the team owns the
      > means of production, leadership is supposed to have vision and
      > communicate that down so that the team can produce something
      > appropriate. However, too often in large organizations it becomes
      > middle management's role to obfuscate that vision and replace it with
      > meaningless tactical goals like some year-over-year number. So, often
      > times the coach's job is just to try to fix that. However, sometimes
      > there isn't any strategic vision to uncover it's just smoke, mirrors,
      > and other people's money.

      I forgot to add the relevant part:

      In that situation the blame is often put on the team, "Why don't you
      just do XP?" Then they hire someone like you or me to come in and fix
      it. You can't do XP if you don't know who your customer is and what
      they want.
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