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RE: [XP] balancing the pair in pair programming

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  • Charlie Poole
    Cool!
    Message 1 of 45 , Dec 3, 2009
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      Cool!

      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com
      > [mailto:extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Chet
      > Hendrickson
      > Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 7:10 AM
      > To: extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: Re: [XP] balancing the pair in pair programming
      >
      > Hello Tim,
      >
      > Jeffries and I now pair facing each other, but offset with
      > our computers connected with VNC, or some such tool.
      >
      >
      > x
      > --------
      > | |
      > --------
      > x
      >
      > We find that with this set up, have the advantages of
      > sitting across the tabls, good verbal and non-verbal
      > communication, with out the disadvantages, reduction in
      > personal space.
      >
      > Wait a minute, Ron is getting someone to take a picture of
      > us. It is now on his iPhone, let's see what he does with it.
      >
      > Ah, here is is: http://twitpic.com/ryzcu
      >
      > chet
      >
      > Thursday, December 3, 2009, 9:46:14 AM, you wrote:
      >
      > > What I want to try is two people facing each other, computers
      > > back-to-back, running yuuguu or the like.
      > > Sort of like playing "battleship". I think that could be
      > fun, while
      > > requiring some funky tables & stuff.
      >
      > > Tim Ottinger
      > > http://agileinaflash.blogspot.com/
      > > http://agileotter.blogspot.com/
      >
      >
      >
      > > ----- Original Message ----
      > >> From: Rob Park <robert.d.park@...>
      > >> To: extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com
      > >> Sent: Wed, December 2, 2009 10:44:32 PM
      > >> Subject: Re: [XP] balancing the pair in pair programming
      > >>
      > >> A couple thoughts:
      > >>
      > >> * Can you come up with a team space in each location? If so, have
      > >> team members all meet at 1 location at a time and rotate
      > the location
      > >> every day or every couple days if needed.
      > >> * Or treat it as if you were 200 miles apart and pair
      > remotely with
      > >> VNC and Skype (or some similar alternative).
      > >>
      > >> --
      > >> Rob
      > >> --
      > >> http://agileintention.blogspot.com
      > >> http://twitter.com/robpark
      > >>
      > >>
      > >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2009 at 10:43 PM, zaidoun alzoabi wrote:
      > >>
      > >> >
      > >> > Thanx for your responses,
      > >> >
      > >> > I do agree that frequent swap is very important to balance the
      > >> > pairs and to enhance knowldge sharing amongst all, but what if
      > >> > swapping was not easy. In most of the projects I have
      > worked for,
      > >> > the team was geographically separated, at least into two places
      > >> > that are 2 miles away, with poor Internet connection.
      > How can I have this frequent swap???
      > >> >
      > >> > In my experience I found that the expert-junior is the best
      > >> > combination. It does increase the skill level of both,
      > but what we
      > >> > had to do is that let the junior be involved more in customer
      > >> > collaboration, where the expert is more involved in writing the
      > >> > code, the junior one was sitting beside and the irony is
      > that the
      > >> > junior helped in quality assurance, as he has better
      > collaboration with the customer.
      > >> >
      > >> > regards
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
      > >> >
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      > >> >
      > >> >
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      >
      >
      > --
      > Best regards,
      > Chet Hendrickson
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    • thycotic
      ... Some ideas here: http://agileshout.com/questions/15/what-is-the-best-match-for-pair-programming-beginner-expert-beginner-beginner
      Message 45 of 45 , Dec 19, 2009
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        > In my experience I found that the expert-junior is the best
        > combination. It does increase the skill level of both, but what we
        > had to do is that let the junior be involved more in customer
        > collaboration, where the expert is more involved in writing the
        > code, the junior one was sitting beside and the irony is that the
        > junior helped in quality assurance, as he has better collaboration
        > with the customer.

        Some ideas here:
        http://agileshout.com/questions/15/what-is-the-best-match-for-pair-programming-beginner-expert-beginner-beginner
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