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Re: [XP] Re: Certification on eXtreme Programming

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  • Olof Bjarnason
    ... See my original post. ... -- twitter.com/olofb olofb.wordpress.com olofb.wordpress.com/tag/english
    Message 1 of 94 , May 4, 2009
      2009/5/4 Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...>:
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      >
      > Hello, John. On Monday, May 4, 2009, at 6:34:20 AM, you wrote:
      >
      >> I don't go quite as far as Olof, but seing a list of certifications on
      >> a candidate's resume is a definite downcheck. I've recommended hiring
      >> people with various certifications on a couple occasions, but it's been
      >> in spite of the certifications, not because of them.
      >
      > Why would that be? What about getting a certification makes someone
      > worse.

      See my original post.

      >
      > Ron Jeffries
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      > www.xprogramming.com/blog
      > For best results, avoid doing stupid things. -- Clifford Stoll (Acme Klein
      > Bottle)
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      >



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    • Adrian Howard
      ... Not sure that it is mind - I m often wrong :) Adrian
      Message 94 of 94 , May 8, 2009
        On 6 May 2009, at 04:08, Ron Jeffries wrote:

        > Hello, Adrian. On Tuesday, May 5, 2009, at 11:37:58 AM, you wrote:
        >
        >> That said, my perception is that the odds of getting a bad candidate
        >> at interview increase if they have certifications listed on their
        >> resume.
        >
        >> My post hoc rationalisation for this experiences is not so much
        >> related to the certification programme itself (although many of them
        >> have severe problems), but to the sort of folk they can attract.
        >
        >> The less creative, by-the-book, list-following developer seems to see
        >> certification programmes as a way to prove their competence. The more
        >> creative, problem-oriented, passionate developers seem to spend their
        >> free chunk of career development time building something cool, or
        >> learning erlang, or contributing to open source projects or...
        >
        > Interesting model. I can see how it might be.

        Not sure that it is mind - I'm often wrong :)

        Adrian
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