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Re: [XP] Certification on eXtreme Programming

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  • jo_andp
    What I meant was basically if we can t get a coach, how can I avoid get into a mess when doing XP ? Thannks in advance
    Message 1 of 94 , May 3 5:05 PM
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      What I meant was basically if we can't get a coach, how can I avoid get into a mess when doing XP ? Thannks in advance

      --- In extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Kerievsky <joshua@...> wrote:
      >
      > On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 6:15 PM, jo_andp <jo_andp@...> wrote:
      >
      > > Hello, I would like to know if there is out there any kind of certification
      > > on Agile specific eXtreme Programming or just Agile?
      > > Thanks in advance.
      >
      >
      > The XP community has not hopped onto the certification bandwagon. There
      > are excellent educational classes one can take in XP.
      >
      > What is your objective? Would an education in XP be sufficient or do you
      > also need to show that you got certified?
      >
      > --
      > best regards,
      > jk
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    • Adrian Howard
      ... Not sure that it is mind - I m often wrong :) Adrian
      Message 94 of 94 , May 8 7:55 AM
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        On 6 May 2009, at 04:08, Ron Jeffries wrote:

        > Hello, Adrian. On Tuesday, May 5, 2009, at 11:37:58 AM, you wrote:
        >
        >> That said, my perception is that the odds of getting a bad candidate
        >> at interview increase if they have certifications listed on their
        >> resume.
        >
        >> My post hoc rationalisation for this experiences is not so much
        >> related to the certification programme itself (although many of them
        >> have severe problems), but to the sort of folk they can attract.
        >
        >> The less creative, by-the-book, list-following developer seems to see
        >> certification programmes as a way to prove their competence. The more
        >> creative, problem-oriented, passionate developers seem to spend their
        >> free chunk of career development time building something cool, or
        >> learning erlang, or contributing to open source projects or...
        >
        > Interesting model. I can see how it might be.

        Not sure that it is mind - I'm often wrong :)

        Adrian
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