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  • J. B. Rainsberger
    ... ... This is where I wanted to go with my advice. Thanks, Kent, for reminding me about asking a simple question, then shutting up. ... J. B. (Joe)
    Message 1 of 77 , May 29, 2008
      On May 19, 2008, at 10:22 , Kent Beck wrote:
      > Gary, I'll add one more potentially useful response: "What?"
      > followed by
      > silence. I'll try that here (I've lost the original post, so I'll
      > abbreviate):
      >
      <snip />
      > And now we have reached, as Churchill put it, the end of the
      > beginning. So
      > far the conversation has established trust and exposed weakness.
      > Trying to
      > skip this step (which can be very uncomfortable for me) just doesn't
      > work. I
      > need to come to these conversations with compassion, a willingness
      > to beth the other person in their distress without taking
      > responsibility for
      > it.
      >
      > I am ready to hear about real conversations with real people, if
      > anyone is
      > ready to share.
      >
      This is where I wanted to go with my advice. Thanks, Kent, for
      reminding me about asking a simple question, then shutting up.
      ----
      J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: http://www.jbrains.ca
      Your guide to software craftsmanship
      JUnit Recipes: Practical Methods for Programmer Testing
      2005 Gordon Pask Award for contributions to Agile Software Practice
    • J. B. Rainsberger
      ... ... This is where I wanted to go with my advice. Thanks, Kent, for reminding me about asking a simple question, then shutting up. ... J. B. (Joe)
      Message 77 of 77 , May 29, 2008
        On May 19, 2008, at 10:22 , Kent Beck wrote:
        > Gary, I'll add one more potentially useful response: "What?"
        > followed by
        > silence. I'll try that here (I've lost the original post, so I'll
        > abbreviate):
        >
        <snip />
        > And now we have reached, as Churchill put it, the end of the
        > beginning. So
        > far the conversation has established trust and exposed weakness.
        > Trying to
        > skip this step (which can be very uncomfortable for me) just doesn't
        > work. I
        > need to come to these conversations with compassion, a willingness
        > to beth the other person in their distress without taking
        > responsibility for
        > it.
        >
        > I am ready to hear about real conversations with real people, if
        > anyone is
        > ready to share.
        >
        This is where I wanted to go with my advice. Thanks, Kent, for
        reminding me about asking a simple question, then shutting up.
        ----
        J. B. (Joe) Rainsberger :: http://www.jbrains.ca
        Your guide to software craftsmanship
        JUnit Recipes: Practical Methods for Programmer Testing
        2005 Gordon Pask Award for contributions to Agile Software Practice
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