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  • Keith Ray
    Religious frames occur to some people to explain stuff someone is saying that doesn t their frame / view of the world. It offers a simplistic explanation for
    Message 1 of 3 , Apr 4, 2006
      "Religious" frames occur to some people to explain stuff someone is
      saying that doesn't their frame / view of the world. It offers a
      simplistic explanation for a otherwise troublesome fact.

      Mac users are called "fanatics" (and some of them who shave the Apple
      logo in their hair, or get Apple logos tattoos are fanatics), but many
      of them just want a system that let's them work efficiently, and the
      Mac does that for them.

      George Lakoff <http://www.georgelakoff.com/books/> explains that any
      fact that doesn't fit into our frames tends to slide right out of our
      head. Only a few unusual people will re-examine the facts and their

      An example is the explanation of seasons -- many college graduates
      will say that it has to do with the elliptical orbit of the earth
      around the sun, conveniently forgetting that when the northern
      hemisphere has winter, the southern has summer. Remind them of that
      fact, and MAYBE they're remember axial tilt and the angle of sunlight
      on the earth's surface. But "closer to the sun" is a "more simple"
      explanation and that's the one they keep in their heads.

      On 4/4/06, Ron Jeffries <ronjeffries@...> wrote:
      > On Tuesday, April 4, 2006, at 7:09:22 AM, Tim Dugan wrote:
      > >>Religious Opinion:
      > >>
      > >> Any strongly-held opinion contrary to one's own strongly-held
      > > opinion.
      > >>
      > >>Ron Jeffries
      > > That's pretty good, humor-wise...although for a serious definition I
      > > would have said something more like "an opinion that one sticks to
      > > through thick and thin despite evidence to the contrary..." or
      > > something like "hard-held opinions based on folklore."
      > Perhaps. And yet the hard-WON opinions often expressed here by
      > people in the trenches of doing and figuring out what Agile is and
      > why it works are often labeled as religious, when in fact those
      > opinions are neither confronted with evidence to the contrary nor
      > based merely on folklore.
      > Perhaps. Yet, often we see labeled as "religious", not opinions
      > where there is evidence to the contrary, or opinions just based on
      > folklore. We see the term applied to the hard-won opinions expressed
      > by people in the trenches who are actually doing Agile and figuring
      > out what it is and why it works.
      > I like to listen, try, learn what works for me. Then I report back
      > what happened, and invite others to try also.
      > Ron Jeffries
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      C. Keith Ray
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