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158777Re: [XP] How not to do Kanban

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  • Kay
    Aug 29, 2013
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      hey, Francis Fish,

      --- In extremeprogramming@yahoogroups.com, Francis Fish <francis@...> wrote:
      >
      <snip> Is this team lead
      > also the gatekeeper to more senior management?
      Near as I can tell, the "team leads" only dole out "tasks" and have no upward mobility.


      Can you do anything about
      > this?

      well, I'm protecting my own sanity by leaving. NO one here I want to emulate... and nothing to learn here that I trust is accurate. (Right justifying SQL scripts, booo!)
      >
      > btw - I love Larry's post too.
      me too.

      kay
      >
      >
      > On Thu, Aug 29, 2013 at 2:49 AM, Larry Brunelle <brunelle@...> wrote:
      >
      > > I'm reminded of the signs we sometimes see in garages
      > > reading something like
      > >
      > > Labor $90 hourly
      > > If you watch $125
      > > If you help $175
      > > If you worked on it first $200
      > >
      > > to which could perhaps be added
      > > If you stand there and tell me how to do it $300
      > >
      > >
      > > Kay wrote:
      > > > Okay, they told us to do Kanban. So, one day, the "team lead"
      > > > (whose sole job is "tasking" the employees and who had me
      > > > "right-justify"columns in a sql insert script (a text file) so it
      > > > would be 'easier to maintain" – so one day, by herself, the "team
      > > > lead" created a Kanban board with the backlog . No imput from the
      > > > "team"
      > > >
      > > > And you wonder why I'M crying?
      > > >
      > > > (I've had my own Kanban board (for my own "tasks" up for a year.)
      > > >
      > > > kay P.
      > >
      > >
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      > --
      > Thanks and Regards,
      >
      > Francis
      >
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      > The only way to improve is to look at the whole system people are operating
      > with, the basic tools, their training, how much initiative they are
      > allowed, are you measuring the right things (more about that later) and
      > then you can improve. But it's the *system* you improve, not the people you
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