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  • Bill Harris
    Eduard, Rewatched Little Buda this weekend. I have changed since I first saw it. The relationship of Buddhist thought to underlying Hindu polytheism is more
    Message 1 of 156 , Jun 3, 2002
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      Eduard, Rewatched "Little Buda" this weekend. I have changed since I first
      saw it. The relationship of Buddhist thought to underlying Hindu polytheism
      is more clear to me now. It is all such fantastic thinking, early mans
      attempts to come to grips with the big questions. The last time I watched it
      I became enraptured in the metaphysics.[and Miss Fonda] Now I see all the
      characters thrashing about in the pit of religion, feeling good, then
      feeling bad, loving life, fearing life, but not knowing anything more.
      Excuse me I must go spin my prayer wheel. Bill
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Eduard Alf" <yeoman@...>
      To: <existlist@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 7:11 PM
      Subject: [existlist] fantasy


      > George,
      >
      > Everyone essentially lives a fantasy. The key is
      > to realise that it is a fantasy. I am in love
      > with Buffy the Vampire Slayer, but hey, I know she
      > has to first fulfill that mission of hers ... I
      > can wait.
      >
      > Idealism [if you are using that to relate to
      > fantasy] is hardly intellectual castration. It is
      > the very thing that keeps us going.
      >
      > eduard
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: George Walton
      > [mailto:iambiguously@...]
      > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 5:46 PM
      > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: RE: [existlist] Re: Selfish
      >
      >
      > Eduard,
      >
      > Exploring fantasy [the esoteric] philosophically
      > is
      > one thing...living in one, however, is something
      > else
      > altogether. In my own estimation, Idealism
      > [secular or
      > sacred] is nothing short of intellectual
      > castration.
      > But that's just me.
      >
      > On the other hand, I am not at all opposed to
      > those
      > who try to figure out some way [anyway at all, in
      > fact, as long as it does not constrain other's in
      > their own pursuits] to make life more endurable.
      > If
      > they choose God or drugs or TV or music or sports
      > or
      > professional wrestling or the American Dream or
      > Socialism or Objectivism or WHOGIVESACRAPism...or
      > even
      > decide to live on Fantasy Island 24 hours a day, I
      > say, hey, whatever works for you, Bro.
      >
      > Ah, but if they come into a philosophy venue like
      > this
      > one, they better be pretty damn sharp in defending
      > their ideas. When they are not, that's
      > my...uh...cue?
      >
      > Biggie
      >
      >
      >
      > --- Eduard Alf <yeoman@...> wrote:
      > > George,
      > >
      > > it is the "in between" which is important. Bill
      > > is right in that a fantasy is good as long as
      > you
      > > know it is a fantasy. We continue to run around
      > > thinking about souls and spirits and all that
      > > esoteric stuff. And unfortunately making our
      > > happiness dependent on it. It is time that we
      > > adopted NOOism or something similar to get on
      > with
      > > our lives.
      > >
      > > eduard
      > >
      > > -----Original Message-----
      > > From: George Walton
      > > [mailto:iambiguously@...]
      > > Sent: Friday, May 31, 2002 11:56 AM
      > > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      > > Subject: RE: [existlist] Re: Selfish
      > >
      > >
      > > Eduard,
      > >
      > > Personally, I've always found MAYBEism and
      > > SAYSWHO?ism
      > > to the most rational approach, philosophically,
      > to
      > > the
      > > human condition. You know, like the t-shirt
      > says:
      > > Give
      > > me ambiguity...or give me something else.
      > >
      > > Anyway, one, the other and/or all of the myriad
      > > points
      > > in between and it still comes out the same in
      > The
      > > End,
      > > eh?
      > >
      > > Hey, that's yet another reason for spurning
      > > immortality: you can't be wrong forever!!
      > >
      > > Biggie
      > >
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    • louise
      I m rather upset at present, Eduard, but I ll try to respond. This reminds me of Shakespeare s play, The Tempest. It must be the spirit, Ariel, I think, who
      Message 156 of 156 , Feb 3, 2004
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        I'm rather upset at present, Eduard, but I'll try to respond.
        This reminds me of Shakespeare's play, The Tempest. It must be the
        spirit, Ariel, I think, who says:
        "We are such stuff as dreams are made on,
        And our little life is rounded with a sleep."
        Louise.

        -- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eduard at home <yeoman@v...> wrote:
        > Louise,
        >
        > I suppose that a lot is said of old Lewis Carroll. What is
        interesting however, is his description of Alice in Wonderland.
        Specifically that of it being a dream. Just as Alice fell into the
        rabbit hole, so too do we fall* into a dream.
        >
        > eduard
        > ----- Original Message -----
        > From: louise
        > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 6:41 AM
        > Subject: [existlist] Re: Dreams
        >
        >
        > Hello Eduard.
        > Did you know that Lewis Carroll was supposedly 'hebephrenic'?
        Am I
        > allowed to say that, oh you who know everything? ;¬)
        > love from Louise.
        >
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