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FW: RE: [existlist] Digest Number 171

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  • Misam Abbas
    Amber s mail , inadvertantly sent only to me . ... From: Amber Leigh Griffioen [mailto:griffioe@stolaf.edu] Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 9:06 PM To:
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      FW: RE: [existlist] Digest Number 171

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      -----Original Message-----
      From: Amber Leigh Griffioen [mailto:griffioe@...]
      Sent: Tuesday, August 15, 2000 9:06 PM
      To: misam_abbas@...
      Subject: Re: RE: [existlist] Digest Number 171

      Misam Abbas <misam_abbas@...> writes:
      > The discussion has been pretty intense , and somehow the definition
      > "Truth is that which is regarldless of perception" doesn't seem convincing
      > to me , for of what do we have evidence that we do not perceive. Could
      > someone care to explain.
      > And another thing , is truth independent of time and space , or it is
      > transient and local , and to make the discussion more concrete (though
      > philosophical discussions notoriously tend to depart from this) , I would
      > like someone to give an example of truth. Truth , to me , is an absolute ,
      > and I am not too sure what an absolute is, especially since I haven't come
      > across one.

      I think - and correct me if I am way off base here - that what is being affirmed
      here is that Truth-with-a-capital-T exists independently of any one subjective
      perception.  There exists some absolute, objective Truth that does not rely on our
      interpretation for its existence.  Not to affirm this means that it is probably
      not "local", as you put it.  I agree with you that Truth is an absolute, but to
      affirm that, in my opinion, makes it undefinable.  We cannot know absolute Truths
      for certain (to follow an earlier existentialist strain), and therefore I cannot
      give you a "concrete" example.  I could affirm, for example, that THERE IS A
      HIGHER POWER AT WORK, which I believe to be an absolute Truth, but not matter how
      much I believe it, perceive it, emphasize it, or italicize it, there is no way we
      can know for certain whether or not I am right.  This is the absurd paradox of
      man's existence, and although it's a bummer, I find it also highly cool because it
      makes for great discussion! *grin*

      Bis naechstes Mal,


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      "I am no bird; and no net ensnares me; I am a free human being with an
      independent will, which I now exert to leave you." -Jane Eyre
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      Amber Griffioen

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