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  • james tan
    well said.. From: Christopher Bobo Reply-To: WisdomForum@yahoogroups.com To: Wisdom Forum Subject: Re:
    Message 1 of 1 , Feb 20, 2002
      well said..

      From: "Christopher Bobo" <cbobo@...>
      Reply-To: WisdomForum@yahoogroups.com
      To: "Wisdom Forum" <WisdomForum@yahoogroups.com>
      Subject: Re: [WisdomForum] Re Re: Part I
      Date: Tue, 19 Feb 2002 12:01:29 -0800


      Leaving the realm of Kierkegaard for a moment, I never said that people were
      perfect, nor did I claim that there were no deviants or criminals or people
      that are morally corrupt or weak. Nor did I even say that those who try to
      conduct themselves generally speaking in an ethical fashion might not on
      occasion commit engage in some unethical conduct. Surely there are such.
      Fortunately, I think that most of the time most peope try to behave
      ethically--at least where I'm from. If we lived in a world where most
      people did not behave ethically, the world would be a very different
      different place. The exceptions would become the rule: your food would be
      poisoned, children would routinely be molested at school, airplanes would
      fall out of the sky constantly because they were not properly maintained,
      buildings would collapse on top of us because they were poorly constructed
      and those responsibility for inspecting them took bribes rather than
      actually ensured that the building met the appropriate codes. I really
      think a world in which unethical conduct predominates is a world that would
      be largely dysfunctional. That's why ethical systems employe sanctions and
      punishments to ensure compliance with their norms.

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: artsgina
      Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 12:55 AM
      To: WisdomForum@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: Re: [WisdomForum] Re Re: Part I

      ha ... if only it were so ? look around you <<<< or do you actually live in
      utopia ? .. .and you still manage to generalise .... but thats okay ... says
      a lot about you <<< smile >>>

      to my mind ... just because you become old and marry and have a job DOES NOT
      MAKE YOU ETHICAL <<< but hey ... i havent read K all the way through >>>>

      IT IS NOT A NATURAL PROCESS <<<< most settle at a threshold that do not
      even know of the existence of existentialism let alone LIFE <<<<
      you say >>> To paraphrase President John F. Kennedy, ethical persons asks
      not what their society can do for them, but what they can do for their
      YES << absolutely >>> but you cannot do for society until you are YOU ....
      or else you just lose yourself in the 'doing' for society ..... (and a you
      that is not whole CANNOT be ethical) <<< AND WE ARE NOT ALL JOHN F KENNEDY

      far too often 'society' asks that of you before you are actually ABLE <<<<
      YOU KNOW when you have reached the threshold when you can contribute (ergo a
      John F Kennedy) <<< NOT everyone actually reaches that threshold >>>>>

      how are you (or how do you think you are) .... ethical ? .... .... gina
      ----- Original Message -----
      From: Christopher Bobo
      To: Wisdom Forum
      Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2002 7:26 PM
      Subject: Re: [WisdomForum] Re Re: Part I

      IMHO I personally think that people step into the ethical almost naturally,
      as a part of the maturation process. If you marry, raise children,
      establish yourself in a career, participate in the improvement of your
      community, then before you know it you will be engaged in a life of
      universal duty. You will be drawn out of your sensuous self and into the
      realm of the universal and the ethical. As I see it, the ethical person is
      not so much concerned with him or her self, but with what he or she owes to
      others. The ethical person is concerned to care for others--young children,
      aging parents, unfortunate neighbors--rather than being concerned that
      others care for him or her. To paraphrase President John F. Kennedy,
      ethical persons asks not what their society can do for them, but what they
      can do for their society. Ethical persons are sure of their abilities and
      capabilities and faces the future with optimism, because they are determined
      to achieve the right out come. The ethical person is comfortable making
      judgments, not because they are always right, but because the know that they
      strive to do their best.

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