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  • eduardathome
    Simply that he is French might be an influence. This is just a supposition, but I should think that French society which is more socialist would be an
    Message 1 of 43 , Jun 1, 2013
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      Simply that he is French might be an influence. This is just a supposition,
      but I should think that French society which is more socialist would be an
      influence that produces a Sartre. Granted, a particular philosopher may be
      a person who is atypical to their overall environment, although still
      influenced by their immediate environment.

      I latched onto Charles Bukowski this morning in reading a Montreal
      newspaper. You could say that he represents a certain philosophy in his
      books and that he is significantly a product of his upbringing. Jack
      Kerouac would be another example.

      eduard

      -----Original Message-----
      From: Mary
      Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 6:38 PM
      To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      Subject: [existlist] Re: more nothing

      Okay then. The influences for these concepts go back to Parmenides in the
      5th century B.C. These concepts have been carried forward until today. They
      continue to be discussed among Hegelian scholars at the very least. Sartre's
      philosophical influences were other philosophers. Not everyone who
      experienced the cultural and historical influences that Sartre did became
      philosophers. So other than his personal influences of childhood, attending
      university for his philosophy degree, his war experiences, and his teaching
      philosophy, I'm not sure how you wish to make a connection between
      non-philosophical influences and his book. Which other particular influences
      have you uncovered?

      Mary

      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eduardathome <yeoman@...> wrote:
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      > Both. Being and Nothingness is Sartre's book.
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      > eduard
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: Mary
      > Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 12:35 PM
      > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [existlist] Re: more nothing
      >
      > eduard,
      >
      > Are you referring to the concepts of Being and Nothingness or specifically
      > to Sartre's book?
      >
      > Mary
      >
      > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eduardathome <yeoman@> wrote:
      >
      > Yet I think that there were particular influences that lead to Being and
      > Nothingness.
      >
      >
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    • eduardathome
      Although it isn’t a philosophy but only a tool, there are a ton of influences which lead to Nooism. The primary influence, however, was the brain surgery I
      Message 43 of 43 , Jun 2, 2013
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        Although it isn’t a philosophy but only a tool, there are a ton of influences which lead to Nooism. The primary influence, however, was the brain surgery I underwent when I was in my early 40s.

        In any case, I don’t think that one can truly engage a philosopher X’s ideas without some understanding of the influences. I don’t see it otherwise. Why Sartre came up with Being and Nothingness is as important as the philosophy itself.

        eduard

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jim
        Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 2:12 PM
        To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [existlist] Re: Sartre's influences

        Mary - I believe the major philosophical influence on "Being and Nothingness" was Heidegger's "Being and Time". Sartre, I believe, studied this work closely before writing his own magnum opus.


        Sartre takes over some of Heidegger's ideas wholesale like "existence precedes essence". The early Sartre was more existentialist, the later Sartre was more Marxist.

        Eduard - I worry that a concern over the question "What were the influences on philosopher X?" is often a substitute for directly engaging with philosopher X's ideas and claims.

        Should I be more concerned to understand and grapple with your Philosophy of Nooism? Or should I be more concerned to uncover the influences on you which resulted in your personal philosophy?

        Jim




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