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  • existlist
    ... ===Doug, Honoring your concrete human experience is what existentialism is all about, I gather. So you sense a yearning to belong and find value and
    Message 1 of 13 , Apr 14, 2013
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      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, Doug Viener <duditz72@...> wrote:
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      > Thanks Hermit Crab will do. I would say the core of my personal dilemma is a sense to belong. I think Sartre got it wrong. Hell is NOT other people. We exist through other people, we have meaning through other people. As I said its just a germ of an idea.
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      ===Doug,
      Honoring your concrete human experience is what existentialism is all about, I gather. So you sense a yearning to belong and find value and meaning in interaction with other people. You've thought it through and apparently you act on it by seeking out other people, right? So what is the dilemma? I don't think existentialist writers were starting a religion and were asking for followers. I think you're supposed to figure out what works for you and follow through. Your circumstances may change and then you may need to rethink and spend more time alone, it's hard to say. I do think that solitude and being quiet can be very useful (& pleasant) but we're individuals with differing wants and needs and what may work for one may not work for another. There's no one size fits all when it comes to concrete human experience.

      h.

      h.
    • eduardathome
      Sometimes solitude is a rest period. After spending 8 hours or so on the phone and talking directly with people throughout the day, it s nice to get away and
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        Sometimes solitude is a rest period. After spending 8 hours or so on the
        phone and talking directly with people throughout the day, it's nice to get
        away and alone with my pussycat.
        eduard

        -----Original Message-----
        From: Jim
        Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2013 5:31 AM
        To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
        Subject: [existlist] Re: Books

        Mary, Doug,

        I agree that Sartre's hell and Nietzsche's eternal recurrence are both
        one-sided extremes which don't capture enough of the components of human
        existence, and are not really suitable for ordinary people like us who are a
        mixture of good and bad, with good days and bad days.

        I find that solitariness and living-with-others are both aspects of the good
        life for me: each complements the other. After a period of solitariness, I
        can appreciate the company of my friends and family all the more, and after
        a period of living with others I can appreciate the stillness and silence of
        being on my own again.

        Even existentialists like Kierkegaard and Nietzsche who wrote positively
        about the solitary existence had close friends who they met and wrote to
        throughout their lives.

        One advantage I find in favour of solitariness is that it gives me the space
        and environment to think. I find thinking more difficult when I am in the
        middle of the hustle and bustle of community life.

        On the other hand, my thoughts benefit from the criticism of others, so even
        progress with thinking requires interaction with others.

        Jim




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