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Re: Building the perfect beast

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  • Mary
    I think Bill has nailed down the time frame. We had one group of citizens voicing dissent and another group acting to stop them. When Nixon called on the
    Message 1 of 5 , Feb 14, 2013
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      I think Bill has nailed down the time frame. We had one group of citizens voicing dissent and another group acting to stop them. When Nixon called on the Silent Majority to support him it was the Justice Dept. which responded. SWAT teams and riot police began at that time whether their funding increased over time or not. The law and order folks were nothing new, but as conservatives gained power they simply got more funding. No mystery there. It was the merging of military with federal, state, and local law enforcement and usurpation of democratic values. That expansion has virtually ended dissent as an effective tool for change and forced it into an expensive and slow legal system.


      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eduardathome wrote:
      > I don't think it started in the 60s with riot trained troops. It started
      > when the population convinced politicians that they could get voted in on a
      > security ticket. And it also helped that money was flowing like water. But
      > mainly it was that the silent majority felt that it was under threat. So
      > the police responded as they thought appropriate. It's amazing how much
      > equipment and personnel they can put on the street when there is an
      > incident.
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: William
      > Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 12:30 PM
      > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [existlist] Building the perfect beast
      > It seems to have started in the sixties. Police forces began building
      > specialised riot squads ostensibly to defend against radicals from the
      > left. They began as military trained riot troops with bayonetts and high
      > powered rifles. After Kent State this prescription was changed as shooting
      > college students just did not sell. So these sort of police split into the
      > truncheon wielding , shield carring riot troops and the para military SWAT
      > squads. We now have both kinds with the para militaries often peopled by
      > former military who have particularly violent methods.
      > Just as the rogue officer in Southern california these officers are double
      > trained as military and as police. These are very dangerous individuals who
      > can inflict massive damage . They are also the people who come back from
      > war with a great deal of post traumatic stress. They get very little
      > civilian repatraition as they leave the service and join police departments
      > with troubles related to their military pasts. They would join the guard
      > and some could relate to this lower order of militarisation but many could
      > not. Reassimilation of combat personell should be as rigorious as training
      > for combat. Psychological evaluation , job training and placement are just
      > ignored. Moving from combat to police work needs retraining and holding
      > police rank and reserve rank without such retraining courts particular
      > dangers. Police work and soldiering are not the same things. Even Military
      > Police and civilian police are very different matters.
      > So I think the military has a duty to deprogram the poeople they have
      > trained and the police have a duty to retrain entering officers when they
      > have had combat backgrounds. This is a matter of public saftey just as
      > getting drunks off the roads or stoping cyber criminals. One kind of soldier
      > does not replace another sort without retraining. I am not saying soldiers
      > should not become police . They must become civilians and then must be
      > retrained to become police. If this is not recognised we will see more
      > tragedy from these last returning troops. I do not want it to be harder for
      > them, I want them to suceed and carry on with happy lives. This takes more
      > guidance than we now provide. Bill
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