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  • Herman
    Thanks for your thoughts, Bill, Mary and Jim, Much appreciated. Cheers Herman ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
    Message 1 of 67 , Apr 23, 2011
      Thanks for your thoughts, Bill, Mary and Jim,

      Much appreciated.

      Cheers

      Herman

      On 24 April 2011 03:30, Jim <jjimstuart1@...> wrote:

      >
      >
      > Herman,
      >
      > I wonder if you have read Schopenhauer on music. My guess is you have and
      > you agree with his take on music. He argues that music connects us with the
      > underlying oneness of ultimate reality, whereas language and science are
      > part of the veil of Maya. For Schopenhauer conceptual thought is bad because
      > it is all part of the will-to-live, whereas music is not at all part of
      > conceptual thought, but is more like a direct intuition of
      > reality-in-itself.
      >
      > So for Schopenhauer only music without lyrics would be considered untainted
      > by our concepts and reasoning abilities.
      >
      > Music has been a positive presence in my life. Like Bill I prefer
      > contemporary popular music to classical music, although I appreciate
      > different genres of music.
      >
      > As a teenager I identified with the punk movement that developed in the UK
      > in the late seventies. Then music was all about rebellion and distancing
      > oneself from the boring and hypocritical establishment.
      >
      > I still prefer music with an edge to it, but I appreciate more calm
      > harmonies rather than just the rebel yells these days.
      >
      > Jim
      >
      > P.S. Louise, I don't know what kind of music you like these days, but I
      > wonder if you would like P. J. Harvey's latest release "Let England Shake".
      > The subject matter makes me think you may enjoy it.
      >
      >
      >


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    • Herman
      Thanks for your thoughts, Bill, Mary and Jim, Much appreciated. Cheers Herman ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
      Message 67 of 67 , Apr 23, 2011
        Thanks for your thoughts, Bill, Mary and Jim,

        Much appreciated.

        Cheers

        Herman

        On 24 April 2011 03:30, Jim <jjimstuart1@...> wrote:

        >
        >
        > Herman,
        >
        > I wonder if you have read Schopenhauer on music. My guess is you have and
        > you agree with his take on music. He argues that music connects us with the
        > underlying oneness of ultimate reality, whereas language and science are
        > part of the veil of Maya. For Schopenhauer conceptual thought is bad because
        > it is all part of the will-to-live, whereas music is not at all part of
        > conceptual thought, but is more like a direct intuition of
        > reality-in-itself.
        >
        > So for Schopenhauer only music without lyrics would be considered untainted
        > by our concepts and reasoning abilities.
        >
        > Music has been a positive presence in my life. Like Bill I prefer
        > contemporary popular music to classical music, although I appreciate
        > different genres of music.
        >
        > As a teenager I identified with the punk movement that developed in the UK
        > in the late seventies. Then music was all about rebellion and distancing
        > oneself from the boring and hypocritical establishment.
        >
        > I still prefer music with an edge to it, but I appreciate more calm
        > harmonies rather than just the rebel yells these days.
        >
        > Jim
        >
        > P.S. Louise, I don't know what kind of music you like these days, but I
        > wonder if you would like P. J. Harvey's latest release "Let England Shake".
        > The subject matter makes me think you may enjoy it.
        >
        >
        >


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