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    Bill My dad used to say that once a bureacracy is founded it is almost impossible to ever do away with it; and I believe this goes double for the military
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      Bill

      My dad used to say that once a bureacracy is founded it is almost impossible to ever do away with it; and I believe this goes double for the military industrial complex and police state prison industrial complex. I heard a guy on Coast to Coast in the late 90s maintaining there is a shadow government, that doesnt change as parties do. He said Clinton in 92 said if elected hed find out whats what with JFK shooting, and UFOs. The guy said later Clinton always dodged questions on that promise. It looks like party change brings different policies on tax cuts, entitlements, women and minority issues, gay issues, union issues etc.;but the move toward perpetual war and increased incarcerations continue. Jefferson feared a standing army as incompatible with liberty. As Nietzsche said to be careful when fighting monsters not to become one. The military industrial complex and the police state prison industrial complex are monsters, with mouthpieces defending their monstrosity as heroism.

      Peace
      Tom
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      From: William
      To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 4:18 PM
      Subject: [existlist] Re: Marys last post





      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "tom" <tsmith17_midsouth1@...> wrote:
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      > Bill
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      > Since Reagan got the drug war going, the incarceration rate has nearly quadrupled. As time went on, as a boxer developes more knockout punches, they developed more reasons to arrest, incarcerate, and put people on probation. Mothers against drunk driving will talk about the tragedy of a loved one being killed by a drunk driver;however I bet the driver was nearer 2 than .6 alcohol level. Cops used to be able to chill out a couple, and go on his way. Now he has to arrest somebody. Seventeen year old boys have been sentenced as sex offenders to hard time for consensual behavior with 15 year old girlsIt is all a racket, and the land of the free now has the highest incarceration rate in the world.
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      > Where in the hell is the free world?
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      > It sure in the the hell ain't here.
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      > This is the kind of place where you can get popped for riding around in your own car with an open bottle of beer.
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      > Our ancestors came to America, because they wanted to be free; but the America of their descendants has become more and more just another Goddamned police state, not a hell of a lot different than Red China or Iran, as far as I can see.
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      > It wouldn't suprise me if they made a law making it illegal to take a pee.
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      > And I can just imagine some bogus politician answering a question on tv, saying,"My opponent urinates frequently, but NEVER me."
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      > Groovy man
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      > by the Cool Cat
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      > www.thecoolcat.net
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      > Peace
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      > Tom
      > Tom, Reagan was an actor, he said his lines without fail and crushed liberty by fronting the authoritarians.I used to have a Ronald Ragan door mat,it was great to step on it. Nancy,that fauning trollop was even worse. I had a friend who was high up in the regan white house. He said Regan would sleep through many meetings and was covered with dandruff and was in dementia for most of his secound term. Yet he looked good for the camera and his handlers kept him up with one liners.
      Your guy is here this weekend, the younge Paul might speak to a renued sense of liberty and I might listen up. Nobody gives a fat damn about personal rights and I think there is an audience of silent sufferers. Instead of special interests someone should speak to the interests of general liberty. Dylan was featured at an eastern symposium that delt with his works in relation to the individual and the law. The law now works to fuck individuals rather than protect our individual rights. That Dylan understood and he used biting sarcasm and counter culture wit to fight back. Remember "The cops don`t need you and man they expect the same". If Paul could tap into all the pent up anger he might get somewhere we need to go. Like I told Obama when I met him,"I will be listening" .Bill > ----- Original Message -----
      > From: William
      > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2011 2:53 PM
      > Subject: [existlist] Marys last post
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      > For some reason Marys last post is irretrevable. I kind of liked it especially the part about some of us just having a very insular and unpredictable perspective. Because of the great hormonal differences I rarely think in feminist terms. That takes fifty two % of the population out of my agreement level. Democratisation has caused feminine concepts and especially female socialisation concepts to grow and flourish. Utter traitors like Jim and Herman tag along .
      > I say this philosophy is a mans philosophy and individuals ,without group associations, are the nidus of the operatives. There was a national atheist convention here this week, I did not attend . Some of us do not join collectives, and we should not be forced to commeserate with hoardes of collectivists. I liken my existance to that of a neutrino, very small and able to go over ,under,around and directly through the masses of matter and energy and go on my merry way. Rather than exercise commensualism I model separatism. Mary understands that even though she is a soft pacifist and female in alliance with her gender.
      > Such aboniminations as DUI laws are not about saftey they are about collectivist control and now a few are beginning to rise against the tyrrany of minority masters like Mothers against drunk drivers. Traffic fatalities are at an all time low but still the bitch mistresses rage on for more power, more control, more of their subbordinate conspiracy. These perspectives turn slowly but when they change heads roll. I think it is time to look at devorce laws and yes domestic abuse. Guys ,you just sneak into the voting booth and vote YOUR feelings. We have them you know we just do not talk much about it. Bill
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