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Re: The Mask of Multiculturalism

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  • Jim
    It seems to me that the issue of multiculturalism is different from the issue of immigration policy. As I have said before on this list, I am against unlimited
    Message 1 of 7 , Feb 7, 2011
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      It seems to me that the issue of multiculturalism is different from the issue of immigration policy.

      As I have said before on this list, I am against unlimited immigration, as large movements of population can be destabilising to a country, especially one with a weak economy.

      I am generally in favour of multiculturalism, although I am against religious schools – whether Muslim, Jewish, Hindu or Christian.

      Rather inconsistently our Prime Minister David Cameron seems to be in favour of religious schools but against multiculturalism.

      Generally my reaction to Cameron's speech matches that of The Independent's Yasmin Aibhai-Brown writing today. See:

      http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhaibrown-david-camerons-message-is-that-muslims-are-not-wanted-2206381.html

      Jim
    • Mary
      Being neither discursive, nor attempting to represent a particular philosopher s positiions, I simply intended to stimulate a discussion about a matter which
      Message 2 of 7 , Feb 7, 2011
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        Being neither discursive, nor attempting to represent a particular philosopher's positiions, I simply intended to stimulate a discussion about a matter which affects everyone. Alterity is a fundamental obstacle to peace and prosperity. The idea of confronting one's own racism and beliefs before projecting or imposing tolerance on others seems wise. Difference identity and cooperation are tau(gh)t. The excluded perpetually serve to increase the ranks of the included, unless of course, there is a powerful agenda to the contrary.

        Thanks for your input,
        Mary


        --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jjimstuart1@...> wrote:
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        > It seems to me that the issue of multiculturalism is different from the issue of immigration policy.
        >
        > As I have said before on this list, I am against unlimited immigration, as large movements of population can be destabilising to a country, especially one with a weak economy.
        >
        > I am generally in favour of multiculturalism, although I am against religious schools – whether Muslim, Jewish, Hindu or Christian.
        >
        > Rather inconsistently our Prime Minister David Cameron seems to be in favour of religious schools but against multiculturalism.
        >
        > Generally my reaction to Cameron's speech matches that of The Independent's Yasmin Aibhai-Brown writing today. See:
        >
        > http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhaibrown-david-camerons-message-is-that-muslims-are-not-wanted-2206381.html
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        > Jim
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      • eupraxis@aol.com
        MAry, Actually, I would contend that alterity is the only way out of the obstacle of otherness, if it is appreciated in its full breadth and significance.
        Message 3 of 7 , Feb 7, 2011
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          MAry,

          Actually, I would contend that alterity is the only way out of the obstacle of otherness, if it is appreciated in its full breadth and significance. Socialism is the Weltanschauung of a proper alterity. "Objectivism" (Ayn Rand) is its defacement and repression.

          Wil


          -----Original Message-----
          From: Mary <josephson45r@...>
          To: existlist <existlist@yahoogroups.com>
          Sent: Mon, Feb 7, 2011 1:30 pm
          Subject: [existlist] Re: The Mask of Multiculturalism





          Being neither discursive, nor attempting to represent a particular philosopher's positiions, I simply intended to stimulate a discussion about a matter which affects everyone. Alterity is a fundamental obstacle to peace and prosperity. The idea of confronting one's own racism and beliefs before projecting or imposing tolerance on others seems wise. Difference identity and cooperation are tau(gh)t. The excluded perpetually serve to increase the ranks of the included, unless of course, there is a powerful agenda to the contrary.

          Thanks for your input,
          Mary

          --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jjimstuart1@...> wrote:
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          > It seems to me that the issue of multiculturalism is different from the issue of immigration policy.
          >
          > As I have said before on this list, I am against unlimited immigration, as large movements of population can be destabilising to a country, especially one with a weak economy.
          >
          > I am generally in favour of multiculturalism, although I am against religious schools – whether Muslim, Jewish, Hindu or Christian.
          >
          > Rather inconsistently our Prime Minister David Cameron seems to be in favour of religious schools but against multiculturalism.
          >
          > Generally my reaction to Cameron's speech matches that of The Independent's Yasmin Aibhai-Brown writing today. See:
          >
          > http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhaibrown-david-camerons-message-is-that-muslims-are-not-wanted-2206381.html
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          > Jim
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        • Mary
          Wil, Yes, I do see how this threads throughout Zizek s works, at least those I ve read. I can appreciate how difference is protected by economic parity to
          Message 4 of 7 , Feb 7, 2011
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            Wil,

            Yes, I do see how this threads throughout Zizek's works, at least those I've read. I can appreciate how difference is 'protected' by economic parity to some degree. But psychologically, at the most intimate level and within families, alterity often divides rather than unites. Suppose that's how it's meant to be. There is a time to move along.

            Mary

            --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eupraxis@... wrote:
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            > MAry,
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            > Actually, I would contend that alterity is the only way out of the obstacle of otherness, if it is appreciated in its full breadth and significance. Socialism is the Weltanschauung of a proper alterity. "Objectivism" (Ayn Rand) is its defacement and repression.
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            > Wil
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            > -----Original Message-----
            > From: Mary <josephson45r@...>
            > To: existlist <existlist@yahoogroups.com>
            > Sent: Mon, Feb 7, 2011 1:30 pm
            > Subject: [existlist] Re: The Mask of Multiculturalism
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            > Being neither discursive, nor attempting to represent a particular philosopher's positiions, I simply intended to stimulate a discussion about a matter which affects everyone. Alterity is a fundamental obstacle to peace and prosperity. The idea of confronting one's own racism and beliefs before projecting or imposing tolerance on others seems wise. Difference identity and cooperation are tau(gh)t. The excluded perpetually serve to increase the ranks of the included, unless of course, there is a powerful agenda to the contrary.
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            > Thanks for your input,
            > Mary
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            > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jjimstuart1@> wrote:
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            > > It seems to me that the issue of multiculturalism is different from the issue of immigration policy.
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            > > As I have said before on this list, I am against unlimited immigration, as large movements of population can be destabilising to a country, especially one with a weak economy.
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            > > I am generally in favour of multiculturalism, although I am against religious schools – whether Muslim, Jewish, Hindu or Christian.
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            > > Rather inconsistently our Prime Minister David Cameron seems to be in favour of religious schools but against multiculturalism.
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            > > Generally my reaction to Cameron's speech matches that of The Independent's Yasmin Aibhai-Brown writing today. See:
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            > > http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/yasmin-alibhai-brown/yasmin-alibhaibrown-david-camerons-message-is-that-muslims-are-not-wanted-2206381.html
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            > > Jim
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