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Re: [existlist] Re: The worship of F Nietszche

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  • Herman
    Hi Mary, ... Isn t it ironic that the culmination of FN is the loss of the capacity for discernment? Polly Mary
    Message 1 of 33 , Mar 6, 2010
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      Hi Mary,

      On 6 March 2010 03:24, Mary <josephson45r@...> wrote:
      > Polly, despite a similar bitterness toward women reflected in your question, Nietzsche's work appeals to me for several reasons, not the least of which is power. Reading him >sharpens my ability to discern servile weakness in myself and others.

      Isn't it ironic that the culmination of FN is the loss of the capacity
      for discernment?

      Polly



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      >> But women, apart from your need to breed and nurse your already lost causes, why especially nurse Nietszche?
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    • Herman
      Hi Wil, ... Nietzsche wrote the book entitled Zur Genealogie der Moral Eine Streitschrift Just to put that in context - Die Streitschrift ist eine literarische
      Message 33 of 33 , Mar 10, 2010
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        Hi Wil,

        On 11 March 2010 00:31, <eupraxis@...> wrote:
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        >  Polly,
        >
        > I don't see what you are gleaning from the full title of Genealogy. I see nothing polemical about it.
        >

        Nietzsche wrote the book entitled Zur Genealogie der Moral
        Eine Streitschrift

        Just to put that in context -

        Die Streitschrift ist eine literarische Textform.

        Charakteristisch ist die zum Teil scharfe Kritik an herrschenden
        Positionen in Politik, Wirtschaft, Wissenschaft, Literatur oder
        Religion.

        IOW, there's plenty polemical about it, according to Nietzsche anyway.

        Polly

        > Wil
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        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: Herman <hhofmeister@...>
        > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
        > Sent: Wed, Mar 10, 2010 5:28 am
        > Subject: Re: [existlist] Re: Diminished capacity
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        > Hi Jim,
        >
        > On 10 March 2010 17:41, Jim <jjimstuart1@...> wrote:
        >> Hi Polly,
        >>
        >> Nietzsche expressed many philosophical ideas. Read "On the Genealogy of
        > Morals" – a >sustained argument about how the human race has developed
        > moralities.
        >
        > The full title of the work suggests I wasn't wrong; it too is a polemical text.
        >
        >
        >>
        >> Further I don't find Nietzsche full of hatred – I find him full of positive
        > thoughts and ideas. Yes, he was highly critical of Christian morality and
        > grandiose metaphysical systems, but so >are most intelligent philosophers since
        > Nietzsche.
        >
        > Nietzsche was raised as a pious Lutheran, and he adopted that role
        > zealously. Here's a little poem he wrote when he was 17:
        >
        > ‘You Have Called – Lord, I Come’:
        >
        > You have called,
        > Lord, I rush
        > With circumspection
        > To the steps of your throne.
        > Glowing with love,
        > Your glance shines into
        > My heart so dearly,
        > So painfully:
        > Lord, I come
        >
        >
        > I was lost,
        > lurching drunken,
        > Sunken,
        > Tossed to hell and torment –
        > You stood from afar:
        > Your glance met me often
        > So ineffably,
        > So movingly: now I come gladly.
        >
        >
        > I feel a shudder
        > From the sin, the
        > Abyss of night
        > And dare not look backward.
        > I cannot leave you –
        > In the terrible nights
        > I look at you sadly
        > And must hold you.
        >
        >
        > You are so gentle,
        > Faithful and sincere,
        > Genuinely earnest,
        > Dear saviour image for sinners!
        > Quell my desire –
        > My feelings and thinking –
        > To immerse myself, to devote myself
        > To your love.
        >
        >
        > The prime target of Nietzsche's ongoing hatred was himself. In that
        > respect, he was a far better Christian than most.
        >
        >>
        >> I wonder who you rate as a good philosopher –
        >
        > The second part of your question suggests that you're actually asking
        > me who I like as a philosopher. I don't think goodness is relevant.
        >
        >> or do you hate the lot of them?
        >>
        >
        > Non sequitur.
        >
        > Polly
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        >> Jim
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