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Re: [existlist] Core beliefs

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  • tom
    Bill, It is ironic that both you and Nixon shared an interest in Nietzsche. . Hitler, for example, probably never read Nietzsche, and if he did, his reading
    Message 1 of 9 , Jan 7, 2010
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      Bill,

      It is ironic that both you and Nixon shared an interest in Nietzsche.

      . Hitler, for example, probably never read Nietzsche, and if he did, his reading was not extensive.[9] However, the Nazis made very selective use of Nietzsche's philosophy; this association with National Socialism caused Nietzsche's reputation to suffer following World War II. Mussolini certainly read Nietzsche,[10] as did Charles de Gaulle.[11] It has been suggested that Theodore Roosevelt read Nietzsche and was profoundly influenced by him,[12] and in more recent years, Richard Nixon read Nietzsche with "curious interest".[13]

      Tom
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      From: William
      To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 2:32 PM
      Subject: [existlist] Core beliefs



      In 1971 I was cubed by a special forces operative. It was a terrifying experience which I will not forget.Later I was told it was a DOD experiment but I was picked because I was on Nixons enemies list. If I react most negatively to Leary and his movement you must understand I have a deeply imprented hate for those who used me as a expermental subject without my knowledge or permission. I was taken out in public and my actions were not proper and I will never see the drug as a positive force in my life. The situation came down to what was called "dirty tricks" and was a political assault on what Trick Dick considered his enemies. Oh yes, I was imprinted, to despise him and his henchmen. I caught them in a scheme to spy on civilians in interstate rest stops. It was labeled intergate in the Des Moines paper.The story was squelched but when Nixon went down I was most happy. So, if I seem a bit touchy about such black ops and operatives it is a most real problem for me. The CIA and DOD are constitutionally prohibited from such expermenting on US citizens. Those who were responsible for such crimes will not be exposed or punished ,so much for justice. From Nixon and Halderman to Chaney and Bush these right wing criminals are behind the scenes promoting their hidden agendae. As I listen to the right wing try to reimpliment sunset portions of the patroit act I can see the same conspiratorial attempts to enslave Americans and deny our constitutional rights. The chain is unbroken from Sen. Mcarthy through Hoover and Nixon and the Bush ,Chaney caball. They desperately want back in power. Their coffers are shrinking and if they can be shown to be the saboteurs of democracy that they are we might reclaim our rights as Americans. Bill





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    • William
      Tom, The drumb beat for war and penchant for hyper security go hand in hand with right wing politicos. They have to keep the pressure on and the fear levels
      Message 2 of 9 , Jan 7, 2010
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        Tom, The drumb beat for war and penchant for hyper security go hand in hand with right wing politicos. They have to keep the pressure on and the fear levels up if they are to keep those huge defense budgets in tact. Building jails and forts are draining this country of the vitality of our industrial production.I would call Chaney the greatest war profiteer in our history. As a political weapon the patriot act has few equils. Is it a coincidence that the bomb attack on the Delta jet occurs just when the patriot act begins to wind down. Remember the budget surpluses when we were at peace,when we traded with others rather than attacked them. Bush was in office barely 9 months when he started two wars and sacked our civil rights . Follow the money, defense contractors and oil companies made vast fortunes while civilian life degraded across the board. Remember Blackwater and Halliburten? The right wing thrives on war and death, they get rich and powerful in such times and the rest of us get the shaft. It is a huge protection scheme that works us like dogs to pay them for protection. Bill Clinton understood the situation and stayed at relative peace. We prospered.
        Obama is attacking the problem from a health reform tangent. He is trying to reaccess a civilian emphasis . The war mongers are screaming that we must start new fronts in Yeman and Packistan.I do not know if Obama can accomplish insurance reform in the face of the terror mongering we are experiencing now. If the democrats keep their nerve and pass insurance reform we could slip back into prosperity before the right wing can start more war and destruction. It is a matter of keeping our eyes on the ball while holding the war mongering pigs at bay.
        I think this president is a clever infighter and I fully support him. I also think we will see more terror attacks which must be punished swiftly and cheaply. The symbolism of that reaction will be more important than the actual damage we inflict. Hang um high and broadcast it loudly. Bill
      • tom
        Bill, I couldn t agree more that war and incarceration have been the 2 growth industries since Reagan. Reagan liked to say When government expands, liberty
        Message 3 of 9 , Jan 7, 2010
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          Bill,

          I couldn't agree more that war and incarceration have been the 2 growth industries since Reagan. Reagan liked to say "When government expands, liberty contracts". However, he obviously excluded the military industrial complex and the police state prison industrial complex from his category of government.When Reagan was in his first years, the huge increase in defense spending was his stimulus. Since 911, there has been attempt to use Islamic extremism as a justification as much as the USSR used to be to spend heavy on the military. My dad used to say that once a bureuacracy is started, it is almost impossible to end it because of the political power wielded by employee groups, and corporate contractors who profit from it's existance.

          Peace,
          Tom
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          From: William
          To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
          Sent: Thursday, January 07, 2010 5:04 PM
          Subject: [existlist] Core beliefs



          Tom, The drumb beat for war and penchant for hyper security go hand in hand with right wing politicos. They have to keep the pressure on and the fear levels up if they are to keep those huge defense budgets in tact. Building jails and forts are draining this country of the vitality of our industrial production.I would call Chaney the greatest war profiteer in our history. As a political weapon the patriot act has few equils. Is it a coincidence that the bomb attack on the Delta jet occurs just when the patriot act begins to wind down. Remember the budget surpluses when we were at peace,when we traded with others rather than attacked them. Bush was in office barely 9 months when he started two wars and sacked our civil rights . Follow the money, defense contractors and oil companies made vast fortunes while civilian life degraded across the board. Remember Blackwater and Halliburten? The right wing thrives on war and death, they get rich and powerful in such times and the rest of us get the shaft. It is a huge protection scheme that works us like dogs to pay them for protection. Bill Clinton understood the situation and stayed at relative peace. We prospered.
          Obama is attacking the problem from a health reform tangent. He is trying to reaccess a civilian emphasis . The war mongers are screaming that we must start new fronts in Yeman and Packistan.I do not know if Obama can accomplish insurance reform in the face of the terror mongering we are experiencing now. If the democrats keep their nerve and pass insurance reform we could slip back into prosperity before the right wing can start more war and destruction. It is a matter of keeping our eyes on the ball while holding the war mongering pigs at bay.
          I think this president is a clever infighter and I fully support him. I also think we will see more terror attacks which must be punished swiftly and cheaply. The symbolism of that reaction will be more important than the actual damage we inflict. Hang um high and broadcast it loudly. Bill





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