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  • tom
    Bill, You wrote a while back. Ten percent of the workers are slipping into the lower class. Bush destroyed their middle class lives. Some who think they are
    Message 1 of 11 , Aug 1, 2009
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      Bill,

      You wrote a while back.

      Ten percent of the workers are slipping into the lower class. Bush destroyed their middle class lives. Some who think they are rich, or might become rich, slip over to the dynastic side. They like to be called blue dogs or conservative democrats. The administration has finally redefined the health care part of change as Insurance reform.Let the physcal conservatives cleave to their pocketbooks and forget the ideologue rhetoric . Most of the kings are gone because change eroded their systems. Those who sided with them because of monitary or racist or religous grounds might look to the diminished middle class and position themselves for survival. Bill

      Reagan expanded the base of the Republican Party by adding the Christian right. Before Reagan, many of them had avoided politics, thinking correctly that politics is evil, and some voted Democratic. Politics makes strange bedfellows.When Goldwater retired from the senate in late 80s, he said his party was being taken over by kooks. However, those kooks made the difference between his big defeat in 64 and Reagan's big wins in 80 and 84, You have the fiscal conservatives, the social conservatives, and the pro war conservatives. Before ww2, Republicans were the ones wanting to avoid a European conflict. Bob Taft was the opposite of a DickCheney regarding war.

      Peace,
      Tom


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    • bhvwd
      Tom, Your delineation of three republican types has merit. There is great irony in that political alliance. Eisenhower , the top warrior of the last century,
      Message 2 of 11 , Aug 1, 2009
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        Tom, Your delineation of three republican types has merit. There is great irony in that political alliance. Eisenhower , the top warrior of the last century, jumped ship and warned us of the existence of the military industrial complex. That brand of republican remains, sucking up our national resources at a rate we do not even attempt to control. They are reactionary in the most base sense of the term.
        Robert Taft was a reaction to FDR,to his new deal. I understand Taft's statue is the only one of a senator in DC. On the surface he was reacting to socialism but he did not wish to waste money on ordinary people.
        How the hell that can be dovetailed with social conservativism escapes me. The dumb bible pounders gore their own ox with their commitment to high defense budgets and crushing domestic progressive programs. They are the ignorant flux that joined the hard capitalists with the warrior military. Some, like Goldwater, saw the error of relying on a nut fringe to hinge a major political party. Reagan and Nixon were win at all cost pragmatists. I applaud them as ruthless politicians but decry them as racist and classist pigs.
        I sincerely hope the tripartite coalition is spent. The military remains unscathed but business and the nut fringe are badly wounded by the neocon debacle. With hope peeking around the corner reasonable progressives need point to the cruel usage of lower class believers. If we must wrap their welfare in jesus bullshit so be it. We need them as a lubricant to push us back to a reasonable center. Just hold your nose and think of better times. Bill
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