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Re: Uniting with the divine or sacred.

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  • louise
    David, Are you a man or a pseudonym? My apologies if I have become confused. Several messages this evening have been blocked, and I became ever more
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      David,

      Are you a man or a pseudonym? My apologies if I have become confused. Several messages this evening have been blocked, and I became ever more impulsive.

      Louise

      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "louise" <hecubatoher@...> wrote:
      >
      > Dick,
      >
      > You have deceived me.
      >
      > Louise
      >
      > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "louise" <hecubatoher@> wrote:
      > >
      > > David,
      > >
      > > That is a clear explanation. Thank you. What I next find myself wondering is, in what sense do you believe that you exist? Do the mind and consciousness exist also?
      > >
      > > louise
      > >
      > > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "dave_wdmn" <dave_wdmn@> wrote:
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > The connection is that I exist and we discover that the mind and
      > > > consciousness is not restricted to the dimension of time and space.
      > > > Perhaps you have not found it yet, but many have, and they have grown,
      > > > learned and evolved by way of it. But if you have not found it yet then
      > > > never mind, for it is not something which you need to reflect upon as
      > > > yet. It is a higher level of being aware.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > David.
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "louise" <hecubatoher@> wrote:
      > > > >
      > > > > What is the connection with existentialism? A sense of the sacred that
      > > > falsifies or ignores political and economic realities is not amenable to
      > > > philosophic examination in the Western tradition.
      > > > >
      > > > > louise
      > > > >
      > > > > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "dave_wdmn" dave_wdmn@ wrote:
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > Uniting with the divine or sacred.
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > >
      > > > > > OK, religionists believe that there is a divine or sacred;
      > > > materialists
      > > > > > do not believe it; so be it and let them get on with their beliefs.
      > > > > > There is also a whole plethora of gurus out there, especially in the
      > > > > > East, and also in America since the 1960's who tell folks how to
      > > > > > live their lives and how to unite with the divine or sacred, and
      > > > often
      > > > > > for a price. Yet they never tell you what it is like when uniting
      > > > with
      > > > > > the divine or sacred do they. Why not? It is simple enough to do.
      > > > Did
      > > > > > any of the religions original `wise men' ever describe what this
      > > > > > transcendent paradise, elysium, eternity, was like? If so please
      > > > point
      > > > > > me to where they did so and we can compare notes. Please put your
      > > > > > descriptions of it where your claims are. Thanks.
      > > > > >
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      > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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