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  • louise
    chris, if in fact you are not simply a computer-generated plant from the fascist fringe, would you be so good as to advise me on how to manage my paranoia? i
    Message 1 of 3 , Feb 7, 2009
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      chris,

      if in fact you are not simply a computer-generated plant from the
      fascist fringe, would you be so good as to advise me on how to manage
      my paranoia? i keep thinking that people dont trust me because im
      black. considering i have been deceived all my life by my own skin,
      it leaves me most confused. what is your opinion on the entitlement
      of subliminally trans-racial types to mainstream education? anything
      you write will be noted and may be used in evidence against you at the
      great future court of justice where all tears will be wiped away.

      Louise
      ... missing life at the list
    • devogney
      ... Louise, Welcome back. Tom
      Message 2 of 3 , Feb 7, 2009
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        --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "louise" <hecubatoher@...> wrote:
        >
        > chris,
        >
        > if in fact you are not simply a computer-generated plant from the
        > fascist fringe, would you be so good as to advise me on how to manage
        > my paranoia? i keep thinking that people dont trust me because im
        > black. considering i have been deceived all my life by my own skin,
        > it leaves me most confused. what is your opinion on the entitlement
        > of subliminally trans-racial types to mainstream education? anything
        > you write will be noted and may be used in evidence against you at the
        > great future court of justice where all tears will be wiped away.
        >
        > Louise
        > ... missing life at the list


        Louise,

        Welcome back.
        Tom
        >
      • chris lofting
        ... LOL! ;-) ... ;-) These days it is more applicable to those of middle eastern appearance so you have moved up the scale of trust! Where you born in the UK
        Message 3 of 3 , Feb 7, 2009
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          > -----Original Message-----
          > From: existlist@yahoogroups.com
          > [mailto:existlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of louise
          > Sent: Sunday, 8 February 2009 1:28 PM
          > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
          > Subject: [existlist] addressed to mr. lofting
          >
          > chris,
          >
          > if in fact you are not simply a computer-generated plant from
          > the fascist fringe,

          LOL! ;-)

          > would you be so good as to advise me on
          > how to manage my paranoia? i keep thinking that people dont
          > trust me because im black.

          ;-) These days it is more applicable to those of 'middle eastern appearance'
          so you have moved up the scale of trust! Where you born in the UK or did you
          migrate to the UK?

          > considering i have been deceived
          > all my life by my own skin, it leaves me most confused.

          Yes it would. In a social, symmetry-focused collective the emphasis is on
          SAMENESS and with that comes stereotyping etc. The emergence of
          consciousness has introduced DIFFERENCE where it is not the physiological
          that is an issue. That said, cooperation of LIKE-MINDEDNESS can transcend
          racial issues but still maintain a symmetry focus in that sameness - as such
          there is somatic racism as there is psychic racism. (e.g. my prose can
          elicit comments along the line of 'you are not one of us!' and the passion
          of that can be mapped to an equivalent form of 'racism' where the 'true'
          race is 'pure existentialist' etc etc!)

          > what
          > is your opinion on the entitlement of subliminally
          > trans-racial types to mainstream education?

          I focus more on mind/brain and as such how one uses what is in-between our
          ears. Education is required for (a) socialisation but also (b)
          understanding. The former symmetric (lots of copying etc) the latter
          asymmetric (ultimate supposed to be in a unique expression, a 'difference
          that makes a difference'). Yes there ARE intellectual differences, often
          tied to metabolic differences, some are 'faster' than others, some are
          qualitatively more 'aware' than others but in a social hierarchy these
          specialist traits bring out professions etc 'suitable' for those
          differences; we all can contribute or we can go off on our own (although
          still dependent on the collective for survival etc). The issues with
          metabolic rates etc bring out education requiring some suitable time-span;
          we can all, in principle, gets PhDs but it could take decades rather than
          the set two to four years and the issue then, from a social perspective, is
          'bang for buck'.

          The physiological dynamics of use of recursion of dichotomies to acquire
          information introduces the dynamic of mindless rote learning (the copy
          focus) shifting to an emerging rich associative memory system grounded in
          constructive/destructive interference patterns (and with THAT comes an
          emerging teleological element in the development of
          consciousness-as-language and so identification of 'purpose' etc -
          establishment of a sense of direction so essential for a symmetric form to
          maintain development through a cycle of re-configurations to 'fit in' to
          context changes)

          One of the advantages of the 'net is that these sorts of list interactions
          are based solely on brain power - I do not 'see' you and so avoid/minimise
          any subliminal factors that may bias assessments due to cultural background
          (WASP). That said, my background covered living a vast number of different
          countries in the first 21 years of my life and that included 12 years in
          Asian countries (Hong Kong, Thailand, Japan, Singapore) before coming to
          Australia in 1970. I thus 'escaped' the UK 11+ categorisation process in the
          50s (although implicit in later abilities etc suggested a channelling into
          grammar school over secondary-modern and so a path to university over
          polytechnic) and had a diverse education (home schooling in Japan, UK style
          grammar in HK, US style high school in Thailand, private boarding school in
          the UK, LCC school in UK etc etc) mixing theory with practice, intellect
          with being 'street wise' and often in countries where I was in a minority -
          elitist in some (HK), considered 'inferior', and so 'tolerated', in others
          (Japan) and 'one of the guys' in others (Thailand).

          The diversity in experiences and the exposure to different theories etc has
          led to the IDM material that covers developing an understanding of core
          information processing dynamics at the general level PRIOR to our
          development of specialist perspectives. As such it is open to all and is
          free of local context sensitivities since it covers the basics of all
          neuron-dependent life forms - what local adaptations favoured development of
          white or black or brown or yellow etc etc skins is meaningless in the
          context of brain dynamics; it is the issues of symmetrisation that leads to
          'issues' in that early education of sameness can elicit a natural negative
          reaction to differences ('stranger danger', ghetto development etc).

          Current education systems do not touch on the basics of mind/brain over
          'look' and as such we still promote an 'ape' perspective in our
          socialisations - how people look, smell, taste, sound etc dominates
          assessments when the fact it these are superseded by consciousness (if
          allowed).

          The dependence on early exposure to context in the development of a sense of
          SELF DOES introduce basic symmetry-related issues upon personality
          development where lack of focus on the mental can favour internalisation of
          stereotyping, applicable to self or to others. Education can get around
          these sorts of issues - as can travel! - but it requires some daring changes
          in methodologies to 'transcend' our species nature and move into a focus on
          consciousness. IDM aids in such in that it shows what is SAME for ALL of the
          species and as such grounds us in a sense of 'one' form (general) to many
          expressions (particulars) whereas the more common perspective moves
          particular to general (one 'bad apple' is generalised to all etc)

          As for issues with paranoia - go local. Talk. Communicate to bring out your
          uniqueness and so reduce any generalisations to specifics that can be easily
          addressed. Use humour. As a conscious being you are unique - there is no
          'racism' since there is no 'race'! The problem with symmetric thinking, and
          it dominates society, is the stereotyping so there is a requirement when not
          with those of 'like-mind' to put in more energy in clearly establishing your
          uniqueness and so potential contribution to any social dynamic; establishing
          rapport, even an agreement to disagree, is a step towards increase in
          respect/trust.

          Chris
          http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/AbstractDomain.html
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