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  • bhvwd
    I have read your garbige for too long, I have the honor of exposiing your verbal madness with necessity. Enjoy your personal self . Bill
    Message 1 of 2 , Feb 4, 2009
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      I have read your garbige for too long, I have the honor of
      exposiing your verbal madness with necessity. Enjoy your personal
      self . Bill
    • chris lofting
      neuroscience is basic in its revelation of the differences of consciousness (asymmetry) and speciesness (symmetry). Our speciesness is built-up over
      Message 2 of 2 , Feb 4, 2009
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        neuroscience is basic in its revelation of the differences of consciousness
        (asymmetry) and speciesness (symmetry). Our speciesness is built-up over
        considerable time spans and needs to be understood clearly for consciousness
        to act as an agent of mediation upon such instincts; as such there is the
        need for 'eternal vigilance' lest one falls back onto 'autopilot' too
        readily.

        Implicit in the quotes/links supplied in the post is the application of the
        material to ANY collective and that includes a collective of existentialists
        where the 'greats' are repeated ad nausea (and stuck in a time leading into
        the 1950s) but no consideration is given to what neurosciences is telling us
        about the perspectives of existentialist philosophers developed over a
        period of time lacking any form of awareness of our nature as a species of
        primates. (reading Sartre's text on emotions being a fine example of an
        out-dated mindset).

        One can no longer 'do' philosophy without consideration of core motivations
        of all of as both as species beings and conscious beings where such are
        grounded, seeded, in the neurology.

        The 'drive' of mindless evolution is to 'best fit' any context and the
        emergence of consciousness as an agent of mediation allows for such, for
        emergence of a post modernist perspective that 'any metaphor will do' in
        fitting in with reality and so a focus on shape-shifting; today one is
        existentialist, tomorrow one is whatever is required to 'fit in'. This
        evolution focus is on SAMENESS dynamics and so on SYMMETRY. For a SPECIES
        development this is the best path for fitting into a thermodynamic universe
        - to conserve energy etc and so conserve all there is through adopting
        symmetric dynamics as covered in socialisation and crowd management etc.

        OTOH with the development of consciousness and so our singular being has
        emerged a facility that increases the bandwidth of the species in that we
        have 6.7 billion unique sensory systems; the emphasis here is on DIFFERENCE.
        The PRICE of maintaining that difference is on being competitive,
        argumentative, and so perpetually symmetry breaking/making through the use
        of mediation and language development (and so asymmetry) where such allows
        for transcendence over the more energy conserving transformation of symmetry
        thinking. (we note here that the use of consciousness to mediate and so
        refine instincts/habits leads ultimately, in principle, to the degeneration
        of consciousness as all experiences are met with some 'best fit' instinctive
        response and so mediation is no longer required! - imagination gets over
        THAT problem in that we can come up with a plethora of 'what ifs' - as we do
        with fiction)

        This passage from speciesness to consciousness ultimately leads to the
        politics of Anarchy as the 'best fit' in that it includes self-determination
        that includes self-transcendence over self-transformation. As such all
        political perspectives are up for investigation given the work coming out of
        neuroscience, work NONE of you will able to ignore and so better to
        understand it now and be vigilant than let it run riot in the hands of
        social engineers.

        For recent coverage see such as:

        Westen, D., (2007)"The Political Brain : The Role of Emotion in Deciding the
        Fate of the Nation" PublicAffairs
        Gazzaniga, Michael S., (2005)"The Ethical Brain" Dana Press

        For the symmetry bias of 'all is connected' see such as:

        Marx, K., ([1859]) Dobb,M.(ed)(1970)"A Contribution to the Critique of
        Political Economy" International Publishers

        Fidlon David, (trans) - Various(1968)"Historical Materialism : Basic
        Problems" Progress Publishers, Moscow

        Cohen, G.A. (1978)"Karl Marx's Theory of History" PUP

        Elster, J., (1985)"Making Sense of Marx [part 2:theory of history]" CUP

        Gladwell, M., (2000)"The Tipping Point" Little Brown

        Buchanan, M., (2002)"Small World" Phoenix

        Wolff, J.,(2002)"Why Read Marx Today?" OUP

        Popper, K., (2002)"The Povery of Historicism" Routledge

        Barabasi, A-L (2002)"Linked : The New Science of Networks" Perseus

        Strogatz, S., (2003)"Sync" Allen Lane

        Watts, J.D., (1999)"Small Worlds" Princton

        Watts, J.D., (2003)"Six Degrees" Heinemann

        Ball, P., (2004)"Critical Mass : How one thing leads to another"Heinemann

        Time to grow up guys - move into the 21st century AD rather than wallow in
        the confused mindsets of a philosophical perspectives grounded in ignorance
        -- or else give up and go and play golf ;-)

        Chris
        http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/AbstractDomain.html

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        > I have read your garbige for too long, I have the honor of
        > exposiing your verbal madness with necessity. Enjoy your
        > personal self . Bill
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