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Re: FW: [nominalism] Jung on Martin Heidegger - Certainly

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  • louise
    Which all goes to show that having opinions is characteristic of human beings. What is psychic crankiness anyway? An inconvenient tendency to rank as
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      Which all goes to show that having opinions is characteristic of
      human beings. What is 'psychic crankiness' anyway? An inconvenient
      tendency to rank as exception to some intelligent man's theory of
      what should be 'normal'? I enjoy reading Jung, but am accustomed to
      the combativeness of those for whom ideas are like family. The
      closer I come to a capacity once more to read quietly and with
      attention, the more I look forward to re-acquainting myself with
      Heidegger's calm and visionary thinking. People are constantly
      trying to scare off other people. In politics, journalism,
      academia. Fear is potent, but not, thankfully, omnipotent. Louise

      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "chris lofting" <lofting@...> wrote:
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      > Subject: [nominalism] Jung on Martin Heidegger - Certainly
      > Bernard supplied this damning criticism of Heidegger by Karl Jung:
      > C. G. Jung on Martin Heidegger.
      > Heidegger's modus philosophandi is neurotic through and through
      and is
      > ultimately rooted in his psychic crankiness. His kindred spirits,
      close or
      > distant, are sitting in lunatic asylums, some as patients and some
      > psychiatrists on a philosophical rampage. For all its mistakes the
      > nineteenth century deserves better than to have Heidegger counted
      as its
      > ultimate representative. ... for all its critical analysis
      philosophy has
      > not yet managed to root out its psychopaths. What do we have
      > diagnosis for? That grizzler Kierkegaard also belongs in this
      > Philosophy has still to learn that it is made by human beings and
      depends to
      > an alarming degree on their psychic constitution. In the critical
      > of the future there will be a chapter on "The Psychopathology of
      > Philosophy." Hegel
      <http://koti.mbnet.fi/neptunia/philosophy/hegelcj1.htm is
      > fit to burst with presumption and vanity, Nietsche drips with
      > sexuality, and so on. There is no thinking qua thinking, at times
      it is a
      > pisspot of unconscious devils, just like any other function that
      lays claim
      > to hegemony. Often what is thought is less important than who
      thinks it. But
      > this is assiduously overlooked. Neurosis addles the brains of every
      > philosopher because he is at odds with himself. His philosophy is
      > nothing but a systemized struggle with his own uncertainty.
      > Excuse these blasphemies! They flow from my hygienic propensities,
      because I
      > hate to see so many young minds infected by Heidegger.
      > C. G. Jung in a letter to Arnold Künzli on February 28, 1943
      submitted by
      > Bernard X Bovasso
      > MichaelPret writes:
      > Bernard, it might have been more appropriate had you asked
      > whether the quote might have originated with Jung along with the
      > rather than just quoting.
      > Jud:
      > Obviously the self-appointed straw-clutching excusatory naif and
      High Priest
      > of the *Heidegger the Nazi Cult* - Saint Michael the
      > pathetic hope is that Jung's well known contempt for *the pyschic
      > Heidegger is a fake. He would do well to read Bishop's *Jung in
      Context,* or
      > to order the *C. G. Jung Letters, Volume 1 by Carl Gustav Jung*
      from his
      > local library - that is if the gerontological centre of Britain -
      > Sandwich, actually has a library, or is all the space reserved for
      > folk's homes?
      > *On the few occasions that Jung discusses Heidegger, his remarks
      are always
      > highly negative. In a letter to Josef Meinerz of 3rd of July 1939,
      > accused Heidegger of "Juggling with words." ( Jung. Letters 1. p.
      271) Then
      > again in his letter to Arnold Kunzle of 13th Feb 1943 Jung
      contrasted Kant's
      > long accepted philosophical terminology - "Even Kant for all his
      > constantly employs the concepts that were current in his century"
      > another sort of criticism that only leads to "the mastery of
      > banalities, the Platonic exemplar of which " Jung jokingly
      added, "is
      > embodied for me in the philosopher Heidegger." (Letters 1. p. 330.)
      And in
      > his next letter to Kunzle of 28th of Feb 1943, Jung went so far as
      to say
      > that "Heidegger's philosophandi is neurotic through and through and
      > ultimately rooted in his psychic crankiness" (p. 133.) As Jung's
      letters to
      > Medard Boss of 27 June 1943, and 5th of Aug 1947 (Letters II. pp.
      XI - XV)
      > and to Gerhard Zacharias 24th Aug 1953 (Letters II. p. 121) show,
      Jung had a
      > strong dislike of Existential psychology which used concepts
      derived from
      > Heidegger.*
      > Jung in Contexts: A Reader.
      > By Paul Bishop Contributor Paul Bishop Published by Routledge, 1999
      > also see:
      > C. G. Jung Letters, Volume 1 by Carl Gustav Jung.
      > Bollingen Series #0095: ISBN 0415205573, 9780415205573
      > Compare this quite different source from Oldmeadow's: Orientalism,
      > Theory and the Allure of Fascism
      > *Let us assemble a few now well-known facts, each of which, in
      > may seem of little significance but which cumulatively suggest a
      > requiring the attention of anyone interested in our general
      subject. W. B.
      > Yeats, Ezra Pound and T. S. Eliot (and, to confuse the mix, Richard
      > and Madame Blavatsky) were not only keen students of the Orient but
      were all
      > anti-Semitic, while Pound, notoriously, espoused the ideology of
      > Mircea Eliade, Joseph Campbell and Georges Dumézil, the doyen of
      > Indo-European studies, were also anti-Semitic and were susceptible
      to the
      > anti-modern appeal of extreme right wing political ideologies. A
      more overt
      > and virulent form of "spiritualized" fascism can be found in the
      person and
      > work of the Italian orientalist Julius Evola. Martin Heidegger
      publicly and
      > theatrically aligned himself with the Nazi regime in the early 30s,
      > became an unabashed propagandist for Hitler's domestic and foreign
      > He was a Nazi informer and betrayed several Jewish friends and
      > Carl Jung evinced some enthusiasm for Nazism in its early years,
      > in it a hope of spiritual regeneration of Europe; there are also
      more than a
      > few traces of anti-Semitism in his writings. (Unlike Heidegger,
      Jung was
      > later implacably opposed to Nazism.) As George Steiner has
      observed, the
      > "alpine priesthood" of Eranos was susceptible to a kind of
      > conservative-romantic mysticism which was at least tinged with
      > "Führer-politics." (p. 375)*
      > Oldmeadow. Harry Journeys East: 20th Century Western Encounters
      with Eastern
      > Religious Traditions.
      > (The Library of Perennial Philosophy)
      > <http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?
      > d=2011/stime=1224931107>
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