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Re: [existlist] Re: Concurrence of Be-ing, Think-ing, & Tim-ing

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  • eupraxis@aol.com
    If I were petty, i would say that I told you so.... Wil ... ************** Psssst...Have you heard the news? There s a new fashion blog, plus the latest fall
    Message 1 of 34 , Sep 6, 2008
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      If I were petty, i would say that I told you so....

      Wil

      In a message dated 9/6/08 3:33:07 PM, hecubatoher@... writes:


      >
      >
      >
      > > The existentialist perspective covers mindsets that are out of date
      > > from a scientific perspective. This becomes a problem over time in
      > > that refusal to adapt to new data forces any 'central' perspective to
      > > become marginalised.
      >
      > chris,
      >
      > i simply cannot bear to read any more of this self-indulgent drivel
      > without a further intervention. you arrive here at an existential
      > list and shortly announce to us all that "from a scientific
      > perspective" the long-evolved applications of philosophical thought to
      > everyday life represent "mindsets that are out of date". you are
      > trampling all over territory for which you have neither understanding
      > nor respect.
      >
      > my own capacity to make plain to unprejudiced readers why i respond so
      > trenchantly, and after apparently agreeing to disagree with you in
      > this matter, is seriously impaired at present by the condition of
      > disordered thought from which i am suffering. like sartre and camus,
      > i have felt with an intense passion the intellectual conflicts which
      > centre around political and economic realities. my own life has been
      > so directly threatened in this process that i was obliged to adopt
      > strategies of literary disguise, in hopes of communicating with those
      > who would understand. the power of the fist, the calculated
      > deception, and the gun, frequently win out in this world against
      > natural fear and naivety. what have you got to offer us, by way of
      > demonstrating a serious engagement with life in the home, on the
      > street, in the workplace, or on the battlefield, instead of in the
      > theoretical laboratory of your own mind?
      >
      > louise
      >
      >
      >




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    • louise
      ... ing ... ing, & ... the ... Collider ... not ... than ... as such ... Spirituality ... out ... sense ... each ... interpretive skills ... science ... given
      Message 34 of 34 , Sep 8, 2008
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        --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "chris lofting" <lofting@...> wrote:
        >
        >
        >
        > > -----Original Message-----
        > > From: existlist@yahoogroups.com
        > > [mailto:existlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of louise
        > > Sent: Tuesday, 9 September 2008 5:10 AM
        > > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
        > > Subject: [existlist] Re: Concurrence of Be-ing, Think-ing, & Tim-
        ing
        > >
        > > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "chris lofting" <lofting@>
        wrote:
        > > >
        > > >
        > > >
        > > > > -----Original Message-----
        > > > > From: existlist@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > [mailto:existlist@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Aija Veldre
        > > Beldavs
        > > > > Sent: Monday, 8 September 2008 8:35 PM
        > > > > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
        > > > > Subject: Re: [existlist] Re: Concurrence of Be-ing, Think-
        ing, &
        > > > > Tim-ing
        > > > >
        > > > >
        > > > > > The ontological dynamic is recursive and as such reflects
        > > > > the dynamics
        > > > > > of the chaos game. That reflection demands consideration of
        the
        > > > > > methodology and its properties and methods that can be
        > > > > confused with what is under analysis.
        > > > > > Chris.
        > > > >
        > > > > uh, as one of the science guys on the list, Chris, would
        > > you care to
        > > > > comment on the end of the world possibility this Wed.
        > > > > Sept. 10th when the mad scientists of the Large Hedron
        Collider
        > > > > attempt to create their mini black hole?:)
        > > > >
        > > >
        > > > ;-) it is a problem isn't it! forgive them ... for they know
        not
        > > what they
        > > > do...?
        > >
        > > Chris,
        > >
        > > It was already obvious from your earlier remarks that you do
        > > not understand the essence of the Christian religion, nor in
        > > this instance do you see the shallowness of the disrespect
        > > revealed by your throwaway comment. Jesus understood what he
        > > meant by saying, they know not what they do, and if he was
        > > merely mortal the point is lost. As far as human frailty
        > > goes, quite often wrongdoers are perfectly aware of what they
        > > are doing, but fail to understand its significance. Of
        > > course. They are not usually philosophers, in the Greek
        > > sense of the term, interested with subjective passion in
        > > their thought. This rather solemn statement is needful,
        > > because it concerns disagreements at the list concerning
        > > Kierkegaard's view of the Christian faith, and is hardly a
        > > trifling matter.
        > >
        >
        > ;-) you should have realised by now that I lean more to Nietzsche
        than
        > Kierkegaard. I find any religious perspective as de-humanising and
        as such
        > agree with Marx re 'opiate of the masses' .. or was it 'people'? ;-)
        >
        > There is a sharp distinction between spirituality vs religion.
        Spirituality
        > comes as a property of being a social species and so elements of the
        > parallel when compared to the serial - the organic position brings
        out
        > properties of symmetry and so a sense of 'all is connected'. This
        sense
        > serves to integrate be it between members of the species or within
        each
        > member as singular beings. Not understanding these basics allows for
        > mis-interpretations of what is going on to a degree our
        interpretive skills
        > get out of control when not grounded in reality through use of
        science
        > research - an example of this form of 'mis-guided' interpretation
        given by
        > a Rabbi describing 'angels' when the dynamics covered is more the
        neurology
        > responding to the push of context on instincts/habits and
        consciousness
        > having no idea what is going on -- see
        > http://members.iimetro.com.au/~lofting/myweb/angels.html
        >
        > Chris
        >

        Chris,

        It is you who have no idea what is going on. You are a newbie.
        Please try to show a little humility.

        Louise
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