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Re: [existlist] Re: Conditions Shaping Philosophy

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  • Susan Schnelbach
    Isn t the Central Valley notorious for its good enough mentality? After all, why aspire to something better when you can just barely put in the effort to be
    Message 1 of 12 , Jul 22, 2008
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      Isn't the Central Valley notorious for its "good enough" mentality?
      After all, why aspire to something better when you can just barely
      put in the effort to be "good enough."


      - Susan

      On Jul 17, 2008, at 3:14 PM, C. S. Wyatt wrote:

      > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, Bobconkawi@... wrote:
      > >
      > > Could it be that the majority of people in "The Central Valley" of
      > > California are immigrant farm workers whose native language is
      > not English and whose
      > > family have never been to college and who do not know how to
      > prepare their
      > > kids for college? That might explain their low achievement rate.
      > I doubt most
      > > have never even heard of Existentialism. Bob Miller
      > >
      >
      > The immigrant population is a higher percentage along the border
      > counties. Imperial has
      > the highest immigrant ratio, yet has a higher graduation rate
      > (slightly) and higher average
      > income. So, while farming is key to both the Inland Empire regions
      > of extreme Southern
      > California and Central California, it does not completely explain
      > the disparity.
      >
      > I studied the poverty issue and bilingual education when I was
      > completing an M.A. in
      > English. What is called "generation 1.5" (the first born in the
      > U.S. to non-native speakers)
      > does better than the second or third generation among some minority
      > groups. It's a
      > curious drop off (and drop out) trend.
      >
      > We saw this pronounced among the Hmong, who had no education -- not
      > even the most
      > basic written language skills -- who had a first generation with
      > astounding success in
      > Fresno County. Then, it leveled off and even retreated with the
      > second and third
      > generations.
      >
      > The Minnesota Hmong (nearly equal in size to the Fresno Hmong
      > community) have
      > experienced less "backslide" than the Fresno community has.
      > However, there is much less
      > support here in MN. Fresno has a huge Hmong "New Year" celebration,
      > cultural center, and
      > even an Asian Arts museum.
      >
      > I met a Spanish-speaking mother last week who moved to MN for her
      > children. I asked her
      > to explain and she said, "To get them away from the neighborhood
      > with lazy kids."
      >
      > Seems philosophical, at that point. Or is it? She said she's going
      > to take English classes,
      > but doesn't need English most places. (Lake Street is dominated by
      > Spanish-language
      > stores and businesses in Minneapolis.)
      >
      > Is "laziness" a life view? Psychological? I am just not sure
      > anymore. I am starting to think
      > some communities do develop a "can't do" philosophy and give up.
      > There is a t-shirt sold
      > in Fresno: "Why say yes when you live in FresNO?"
      >
      >
      >



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