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  • louise
    Wil, You mention a handsome bunch at the end of your message. Like many other references, I do not understand the relevance, so I paraphrased, without
    Message 1 of 5 , Jul 9, 2008
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      Wil,

      You mention a "handsome bunch" at the end of your message. Like many
      other references, I do not understand the relevance, so I
      paraphrased, without further thought.

      Louise

      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eupraxis@... wrote:
      >
      > Louise,
      >
      > I do not understand the response vis-a-vis what I had written.
      Where did the
      > notion of beautiful people come from? Unswayed by beautiful people?
      Sorry, you
      > have lost me.
      >
      > Wil
      >
      > In a message dated 7/9/08 5:25:34 PM, hecubatoher@... writes:
      >
      >
      > > Wil,
      > >
      > > So far as beautiful people are concerned, I am of course quite as
      > > unswayed as was Socrates himself. The disguises I wear are too
      > > complex for me to understand.
      > >
      > > Louise
      > >
      > > --- In existlist@yahoogrouexistl, eupraxis@ wrote:
      > > >
      > > > Louise,
      > > >
      > > > "As for 'white people', they could easily include
      > > > fair-skinned folk from various origins, Indians, Arabs, Jews. I
      have
      > > > all too much to learn, but I still want to learn. Respect for
      > > learning
      > > > seems not a straightforward matter, even in educated circles."
      > > > ---
      > > > Response: First, allow to correct myself from earlier. I had
      made a
      > > passing
      > > > statement about an "Adler". I meant Rosenberg. Adler was a
      > > competitor of Freud
      > > > and a fan of Nietzsche. He was very influenced by the latter's
      > > notion of Will
      > > > to Power. Rosenberg was the Nazi philosopher, executed at
      Nurenberg
      > > (which was
      > > > an outrage, by the way).
      > > >
      > > > Anyway, modern ethnology has found that the mutability of human
      > > > characteristics is so plastic that we really have no idea what
      > > people looked like, say,
      > > > 10,000 years ago. The modern Japanese, for example, are now
      thought
      > > to be direct
      > > > descendents of black Africans, based on DNA and other genetic
      > > evidence. We do
      > > > not know how long blacks were black, or if the earliest humans
      were
      > > > differently pigmented from anything we see now, not to mention
      > > other characteristics. If
      > > > the human race goes back a factor of ten or more, the whole
      notion
      > > of race,
      > > > in the restricted sense, becomes completely meaningless on any
      > > level.
      > > >
      > > > Beyond that, I live in the Gulf Coast area of the US where
      racial
      > > > intermingling has gone on for some time. Among the most
      > > intermingled areas, a more
      > > > handsome bunch I have never seen.
      > > >
      > > > Wil
      > > >
      > > > In a message dated 7/9/08 3:30:16 PM, hecubatoher@ In a messa
      > > >
      > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > > Wondered if a specifically- Wondered if a specifically
      > > <wbr>referenced
      > > > > race would prove to be of any use. After all, the local
      > > controversy in
      > > > > which I was caught up, from 2004-7, hinged on my fears based
      on,
      > > > > largely, verbal suggestion. Most of the phrases used had
      local or
      > > > > national connotations. With regard to race, the significant
      term
      > > was
      > > > > the 'BNP'. Insofar as Nick Griffin, the leader of that party
      since
      > > > > 1999, has made public statements about race, he would
      sometimes
      > > speak
      > > > > of skin colour, of 'whiteness', at other times of the Anglo-
      Saxon-
      > > > > Celtic peoples. Now, I am not at all adept in following media
      > > > > developments, so I have no idea whether he makes any use of
      the
      > > > > term 'Aryan'. Seems unlikely, somehow. My own feeling of
      racial
      > > > > kinship is with the Anglo-Saxon- kinship is with the Anglo-
      Saxon-
      > > <wbr
      > > > > approximate for my taste, but I am accustomed to settling for
      > > something
      > > > > at least intelligible. In response to Wil's assumptions,
      then, I
      > > am
      > > > > not identifying the notion of kin with Aryans. It is, of
      course,
      > > very
      > > > > loaded with history, that term, and it brings in many horribly
      > > complex
      > > > > political matters. As for 'white people', they could easily
      > > include
      > > > > fair-skinned folk from various origins, Indians, Arabs, Jews.
      I
      > > have
      > > > > all too much to learn, but I still want to learn. Respect for
      > > learning
      > > > > seems not a straightforward matter, even in educated circles.
      > > Louise
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
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