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Re: non-traditional existentialists

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  • bhvwd
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    Message 1 of 12 , Jul 3 10:04 PM
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      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, Aija Veldre Beldavs <beldavsa@...>
      wrote:
      >
      >
      > > Perhaps it's merely a vigilant advocacy for the silent alien
      > > other who stands at the door but cannot or refuses to come in.
      > > Mary
      >
      > no problem, precedents exist if one is willing to look beyond the
      usual
      > norm.:)
      >
      > many pre-agricultural & herding peoples related to a great variety
      of
      > animals, not just herd animals, and some societies remembered this
      even
      > after they became domesticated. Bear Woman doesn't get the kind of
      > support from her mate as the wolf or the penguin (of the latter
      some are
      > homosexual). Inescapably Nature has variety and she is the first
      living
      > book that people study as to what niches living forms occupy.
      >
      > "Kungi raksta graamataa,
      > Saule kljava lapinjaa.
      > Lords/ masters write in a book,
      > Sun, she writes in a maple leaf."
      > (recorded in different variants, latv. folk/ daina-song)
      >
      > there are archaic societies that recognized order and disorder/
      chaos
      > beyond duality to be part of the same system. thus, awe and
      respect,
      > rather than vilification, fear, or hatred of the strange going back
      to a
      > cognitive revolution taking place throughout the world as evidenced
      by
      > cave and rock art. DMT (N,N-dimethyltryptamine) spiritual
      experiences
      > going back to those days gives the experience of making the strange
      > familiar and the familiar strange, as well as sensing connectedness
      of
      > all within Nature/ the Cosmos.
      >
      > until many Great Civilizations (starting with Zoroastrianism)
      classified
      > what was ambiguous as Evil, shamans, wise women/witches,
      tricksters,
      > third sexes, & so on were "our strangers" (all of them deviating
      from
      > the norm by choice or mis/fortune) esp. among such peoples as the
      > Uralic. ambiguous (potentially dangerous or helpful according to
      > circumstances), rather than Good or Bad natural forces or deities
      have
      > been more characteristic of archaic religions, and this is still
      the
      > case among a number of indigenous peoples who of course have
      modified
      > their traditions to fit current circumstances.
      >
      > from the ecological point of view non-dominant alternative world
      > insights are worth studying and respecting as part of human
      experience,
      > especially since normative truths of any one society are widely
      taken to
      > be self-evident, including the dominant ones today.
      >
      > animals and plants, later considered disgusting and associated with
      > witches or the Devil, such as toads, snakes, or mushrooms were in
      > earlier times respected as part of Nature. mystical experience,
      derived
      > from entheogenics &/or other means known in shamanism with
      reasonable
      > probability gave an early sense of all things being connected.
      >
      > one of the first to suggest the role of entheogenics in the
      > break-through to a pre-agricultural human spirituality, Gordon
      Wasson
      > (Soma: Divine Mushroom of Immortality, 1967) observed that Europe
      seemed
      > to be divided into mycophobic and mycophilic regions (as in Uralic
      > peoples experience), France and the Mediterranean littoral from
      Majorca
      > and Catalonia to Provence being exceptions to generally western
      peoples
      > mycophobia. check out the more recent & rigorous study done by
      Johns
      > Hopkins University on psilocybin mushrooms for potentially legal
      medical
      > therapeutic use:
      > http://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/Press_releases/2006/07_11_06.html
      >
      > aija
      >Kiss my ass. And thanks for the religous slime tour, call Obam, he
      will get you a seet. Bill
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