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Re: [existlist] Re: god exists //// The Convenience Factor :)

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  • NEFILIM001@aol.com
    Alan -- I do believe you are correct in some interesting sense of the matter. Many otherwise nice folks play the game of Religion, not seeming to recall the
    Message 1 of 31 , Jan 1, 2008
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      Alan -- I do believe you are correct in some interesting sense of the
      matter. Many otherwise nice folks play the game of Religion, not seeming to
      recall the important religious texts which states their God is constantly watching
      and listening to everything we do and say; even knows our minds.

      On another note, remember that an American citizen cannot even run for
      president unless they declare a profound belief in Judeao-Christian Beliefs. Try
      it if you are a skeptic.

      It seems most good folks tend to move out of the fringe area of religion,
      more toward the vast fringe area of sociocommercialism. The name God seems to
      be mentioned mainly to sell products, including the products of
      SuperChurches, and politics.

      I expect that folks tend to reach out--just in case, to what they hope is a
      God; more than we care to imagine, If you or I were the God, would you take
      these convenience-Beings up into Heaven?


      Sincerely,
      Frank



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    • eduard at home
      ... aija --- guess when the hammer and anvil part was thought up? metal smithing and with it the metal ages and for that matter warrior societies start up,
      Message 31 of 31 , Jan 8, 2008
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        eduard:
        > The role of the brain is to seek after answers. Why is
        > there thunder?? Ancient peoples came to the conclusion that it is
        > some god hammering on an anvil.

        aija ---
        guess when the hammer and anvil part was thought up? metal smithing and
        with it the metal ages and for that matter warrior societies start up,
        when? - isn't it as early as 6000 B.C. like in the highlands of ancient
        Iran and spreading throughout the Middle East, Egypt, the Caucasus etc.
        smithing gods, as far as i know - all male, become powerful as well.:)

        smithing adds another model of creation via technology, this time
        exclusively male. in the earlier technologies of clay pottery and
        weaving the earliest creators often seem to be female. in the Baltic in
        one of the numerous alternative traditions a smith-god hammers out a
        gold sun. it is known along with the dominant creation models, which
        seem to be parthenogenetic/ from the mother, most obviously with the
        water bird hatching the cosmic egg, but the weaving goddesses are also
        creators.

        enjoy pic of Norwegian smith: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smith_(metalwork)

        but not all smithing gods throughout the world are also thunder gods,
        though there are thunder gods all over the world making noise in
        different ways. there are native American thunder-birds and even some
        thunder goddesses (Yoruba). the Baltic Thunder god's daughters seem to
        deal with rain not thunder while sons are thunderers).

        in any case, at some point, within these traditions some people
        recognized myths to be more art and poetry than science.:) science
        paradigms tends to get replaced and it is updated continuously more than
        art, which tends to recycle or reinvent itself.

        eduard ---
        My point was simply to show that the brain strives for an answer.
        And if it cannot find an immediate answer, it will invent one. Which I
        believe is the origin of religion.

        Yes, not all noises are attributed to gods, but some gods are
        invented to give explanation for noise. Just as gods are invented to
        explain how that big fiery ball manages to get across the sky during the
        day.

        It is often said that gods are supernatural. I would suggest that
        none of them are supernatural. They are all inventions based upon very
        natural experience. God himself is in large part a reflection of ourselves
        and of our fathers. Well ... perhaps I should revise that to say ... within
        the Semitic religions of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. In the Indian
        Gita the point is made that Krishna cannot be described or even seen.


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