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  • bhvwd
    Jim, You and I have apparently lived through very different indoctrinations. The military exposed me to what I considered torture techniques. I refused to
    Message 1 of 3 , Sep 4, 2007
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      Jim, You and I have apparently lived through very different
      indoctrinations. The military exposed me to what I considered
      torture techniques. I refused to practice the lessons but burying
      people alive and beating a steel drum with humans inside seemed to
      cross the line for me. These guys wore no rank or ID so I cannot say
      the government exposed me to such actions.
      As to being "green" the closest I come is on St. Patricks Day. For
      me being green requires a kind of faith and I do not do faith. I
      spend a good deal of time looking into science but think our current
      engineering abilities need be upgraded not scrapped.
      I am political because I am involved in business. Like you I dislike
      both but pay my dues in order to eat.
      As you probably note I dislike idealism as to me it only distorts
      analysis of situations. Idealists who write as well as yourself are
      a particular foil for me. You make me think and I thank you. I think
      we must live for ourselves or no one will. That takes me to adopt a
      square jawed individualism which I connect directly with
      existentialism. For me the problem is to oppose the people who debase
      my freedom and ability to make me and my world better. At some acute
      tangent we seem to have common purpose in that endeavour.
      We have apparently been taught so that different things and
      situations make us happy and whole. For me this existance is often a
      hard slog and I spend a great deal of time opposing forces much
      greater than my puny self. So have an ozone filled day it won`t
      bother you that much longer. Bill
    • bhvwd
      Jim, You and I have apparently lived through very different indoctrinations. The military exposed me to what I considered torture techniques. I refused to
      Message 2 of 3 , Sep 4, 2007
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        Jim, You and I have apparently lived through very different
        indoctrinations. The military exposed me to what I considered
        torture techniques. I refused to practice the lessons but burying
        people alive and beating a steel drum with humans inside seemed to
        cross the line for me. These guys wore no rank or ID so I cannot say
        the government exposed me to such actions.
        As to being "green" the closest I come is on St. Patricks Day. For
        me being green requires a kind of faith and I do not do faith. I
        spend a good deal of time looking into science but think our current
        engineering abilities need be upgraded not scrapped.
        I am political because I am involved in business. Like you I dislike
        both but pay my dues in order to eat.
        As you probably note I dislike idealism as to me it only distorts
        analysis of situations. Idealists who write as well as yourself are
        a particular foil for me. You make me think and I thank you. I think
        we must live for ourselves or no one will. That takes me to adopt a
        square jawed individualism which I connect directly with
        existentialism. For me the problem is to oppose the people who debase
        my freedom and ability to make me and my world better. At some acute
        tangent we seem to have common purpose in that endeavour.
        We have apparently been taught so that different things and
        situations make us happy and whole. For me this existance is often a
        hard slog and I spend a great deal of time opposing forces much
        greater than my puny self. So have an ozone filled day it won`t
        bother you that much longer. Bill
      • jimstuart46
        Bill, I like your straight-talking approach, and it is good for me to have a contributor to this forum who vigorously opposes my ideas. That way I am forced to
        Message 3 of 3 , Sep 5, 2007
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          Bill,

          I like your straight-talking approach, and it is good for me to have
          a contributor to this forum who vigorously opposes my ideas. That
          way I am forced to keep asking myself: Am I talking nonsense here?

          As you say, our backgrounds and life experiences are very different,
          and for this reason some of our current attitudes and beliefs are
          very different.

          Jim



          --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "bhvwd" <v.valleywestdental@...>
          wrote:
          >
          > Jim, You and I have apparently lived through very different
          > indoctrinations. The military exposed me to what I considered
          > torture techniques. I refused to practice the lessons but burying
          > people alive and beating a steel drum with humans inside seemed
          to
          > cross the line for me. These guys wore no rank or ID so I cannot
          say
          > the government exposed me to such actions.
          > As to being "green" the closest I come is on St. Patricks Day.
          For
          > me being green requires a kind of faith and I do not do faith. I
          > spend a good deal of time looking into science but think our
          current
          > engineering abilities need be upgraded not scrapped.
          > I am political because I am involved in business. Like you I
          dislike
          > both but pay my dues in order to eat.
          > As you probably note I dislike idealism as to me it only
          distorts
          > analysis of situations. Idealists who write as well as yourself
          are
          > a particular foil for me. You make me think and I thank you. I
          think
          > we must live for ourselves or no one will. That takes me to adopt
          a
          > square jawed individualism which I connect directly with
          > existentialism. For me the problem is to oppose the people who
          debase
          > my freedom and ability to make me and my world better. At some
          acute
          > tangent we seem to have common purpose in that endeavour.
          > We have apparently been taught so that different things and
          > situations make us happy and whole. For me this existance is often
          a
          > hard slog and I spend a great deal of time opposing forces much
          > greater than my puny self. So have an ozone filled day it won`t
          > bother you that much longer. Bill
          >
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