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  • † Angel Sola
    How s your nose, buddy? ... each other, so don t take it as an insult if I do not read your posts from here on in. ... greatly ... talks ... center ... up ...
    Message 1 of 10 , Mar 23 7:51 AM
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      How's your nose, buddy?

      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eupraxis@... wrote:
      >
      > Sola,
      >
      > With all due respect, I don't think that we have much to say to
      each other, so don't take it as an insult if I do not read your posts
      from here on in.
      >
      > Wil
      >
      > -----Original Message-----
      > From: sola_blue_angel@...
      > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Fri, 23 Mar 2007 9:28 AM
      > Subject: [existlist] Re: Thought for the Day
      >
      > Hows about a punch in the nose, you asked for it, buddy!
      >
      > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eupraxis@ wrote:
      > >
      > > Well, that was a disappointment. This is just pure nonsense.
      > Californication,
      > > pure and simple. No, Husserl did not write about the soul. And
      > Einstein did
      > > not write about warm fuzzy puppies. Astrology. Sad.
      > >
      > > WS
      > >
      > > In a message dated 3/22/07 10:26:12 PM, sola_blue_angel@ writes:
      > >
      > >
      > > >
      > > > Thank-you, I'll see what I can do. I'll SEE. Edith Stein's
      > writings
      > > > DO interest me. She wrote about Empathy. It is interesting
      > reading. I
      > > > have only read a little bit of Husserl, but I know she was
      greatly
      > > > influenced by his thought, and she often responds in her THE
      > PROBLEM
      > > > OF EMPATHY to the ideas of others. Edith Stein, the person,
      > interests
      > > > me a lot. Her story. Her spirituality. Her brilliance. She
      talks
      > > > about the soul in that work, did Husserl?
      > > >
      > > > I am a freethinker, but maybe not in the same way as the next
      > > > guy......Maybe it IS because I am saggitarius, and I have read
      > many
      > > > writings which say that they value freedom. I do, from the
      center
      > of
      > > > my existence. I was not being totally flippant when I brought
      up
      > > > astrology because every single person in my immediate family
      fits
      > > > their sign, and they, none of them were raised with
      astrological
      > > > ideas as a formative element..... ideas as a formative
      > element.....<w
      > > > so only a little bit........ so how did it happen that each of
      > them
      > > > fits to a t......sag, capricorn, libra, gemini, and leo.
      (Emily
      > is an
      > > > angel, so with her I haven't been able to detect the influence
      as
      > > > well.....maybe angels are exempt from astrological
      > > > influence... influence...<wbr>...most of those people who know
      Ret
      > > > girls agree....... girls agree.......<wb girls
      > agree.......<wbr>.th
      > > > just wanted to tell you about some angels...... just wanted to
      > tell y
      > > > alright to talk about paintings, and stereotypes, and nazis,
      why
      > > > can't we speak of other beings.....other beings than just
      human.
      > Why
      > > > do we in existentialism have to be so strictly human and
      science
      > > > oriented, why can't we seek further in our adventures. This
      might
      > > > relate to something Edith Stein would be able to
      > > > analyze..... analyze.....<wbr>...better than I.........by
      knowing
      > of,
      > > > higher being, we attempt to bring it into ourselves to try to
      > > > comprehend what at first the self finds incomprehensible,
      since
      > it is
      > > > so DIFFERENT than the self which we are accustomed to.......we
      > try to
      > > > find something inside ourself which is ABLE to understand, we
      > might
      > > > even peruse ourself for an analogical understanding if we lack
      a
      > > > direct route....... direct route.......<wbr>........that
      > something som
      > > > in that it is only partially comprehended, but something, what
      is
      > it,
      > > > inside of us, our creativity or ability to synthesize.. inside
      > > > something tries to understand and make sense out of what
      > > > is 'different'. is 'different'.<wbr>.......but we can al
      > > > others.....try to put ourselves in their place, that is what
      > empathy
      > > > is.....it is a reaching out to become other in order to
      understand
      > > > other....... other.......<wbr>often SO THAT WE CAN COME TO
      > ANOTHER'
      > > > this is empathy on the physical level, but it can reach to the
      > > > psychological and emotional level, also........ psychologica
      > > > discovered that I had a disabled child I knew right then and
      there
      > > > that few people would be able to empathize fully with me. That
      is
      > a
      > > > lonely feeling. You know inside of you that no one you meet
      > > > understands very well. But the truth is.....we remain lonely
      with
      > > > those who only partially understand.. those who only partially
      > > > Syndrome mom.....even there, we do not understand the same
      way.
      > But
      > > > we both know what it feels like to be heartbroken or devastated
      > > > emotionally. For some this experience will be intense and
      maybe
      > even
      > > > have pathological ramifications on the experiencer. With me, I
      > began
      > > > to reject others psychologically. I was no longer part of their
      > > > more 'normal' world, where it always appeared to me that they
      > > > continued to laugh, take their children to the craft store,
      and
      > wear
      > > > gaudy necklaces when shopping and joking with friends. I
      thought
      > it
      > > > odd that life went on, while the sun WENT OUT. The sun went
      out. I
      > > > swear there was no sun. There were no flowers either.
      > > >
      > > > About 'other beings'...and. About 'other
      > beings'...and.<wbr>..'other
      > > > whether we fully understand it or not. Humans have the ability
      > > > to 'value'..... to 'value'.....<wbr>..we create inside
      ourselves
      > a men
      > > > things we value......some of our valuations are the result of
      > > > reflection.. reflection..<wbr>....others are more automatic. I
      > value t
      > > > than the next guy. Some of my valuations are based on
      continuous
      > > > reflection, others are automatic. I question some of the
      automatic
      > > > valuations, for they overlap the reflective ones, and draw
      > attention
      > > > to themselves during reflection.
      > > >
      > > > Something can be real, even if science cannot detect it. We are
      > > > experiencers. Edith Stein also talks about how the
      self 'values',
      > and
      > > > about the levels of that valuation, about how we can value a
      > person
      > > > more than we value 'what that person does'....... more than we
      > value '
      > > > value, but not nearly on the same level. She distinguishes
      levels
      > of
      > > > valuation, and it seems some valuation hinges on soul matters.
      > Some
      > > > valuations are deeper and of a higher quality than others.
      > > > Sola
      > > >
      > > >
      > > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > >
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