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  • bhvwd
    Trinidad, I see many coming to philosophical crisis. The iron willed certitude of many faith based people is not forcing the future they foretold. This is a
    Message 1 of 3 , Feb 26, 2007
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      Trinidad, I see many coming to philosophical crisis. The iron willed
      certitude of many faith based people is not forcing the future they
      foretold. This is a true crisis of faith, sort of the leap of faith
      in reverse.
      The science has been brutally efficient. As we become more precise,
      more powerful in execution, the sheer power of the scientific method
      shines out for all to see. Those who can think in a scientific mode,
      produce a reliable product, know it is not accidental that they often
      succeed. Those who blunder ahead on faith are coming to the end of
      their competitive possibilities. Six years into this crusade the
      worthless affectations of the dying core of the neoconservatives are
      stuffed down the necks of moderate people. The base is puffed up,
      agitated, hypersensitive. A smart politician can and probably will
      burst the base. New, possibly radical group identities will emerge
      and we will test the model against the world of tomorrow. The bone
      boxes from jesus land are only a metaphor for the tipping argument
      against faith. Priests are leaping to the defense of the illogical
      while from institutions of higher learning professors of theology
      are enthralled. It is just the old smoke screen and the guy on the
      bulge in the bell curve knows it isn`t working. Strom Thurmans
      black boy knows about the clan and understands in a free society you
      don`t wear hoods. You don`t wear the birka, you don`t take the veil.
      The right is gagging on all this and it is way overdue. This last
      gristly gasp of panic should be savored by the long suffering ,tin
      horn atheist. Turn, turn, turn, Bill
    • Trinidad Cruz
      Yeah Bill, the bone boxes have been around for awhile. There was a flap five or six years ago. I have had a considerable amount of experience with the blue
      Message 2 of 3 , Feb 27, 2007
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        Yeah Bill, the "bone boxes" have been around for awhile. There was a
        flap five or six years ago. I have had a considerable amount of
        experience with the blue collar "faith" people, and I have concluded
        that the "fear/faith" basis of fundamentalist Christianity is not too
        easily swayed. I expect that this new documentary will have little
        effect on the "faithful" base. If the Nascar crowd ever mobilizes
        toward the left it will only be driven by economics. The truth is we
        may be in for a delayed socialism, that is what Europe has already
        gone through, and here like there it will only be economically driven.
        The Southern Baptist bunch and so forth, run before morality and
        ethics like scared children, and it is precisely that philosophical
        immaturity that makes candy (money) the central motivation of their
        existence. "Want a Walnetto?" It is "Laugh-In" in the end. I wish I
        was related to Jesus (fat chance). I would sue for custody of the
        remains. (Where is the "House of David" when you need them? The
        Bahamas?) Here the "buck" is the "bull" (as in Papal). Some of my
        respectable friends may be right that capitalism levels itself out
        against moral and ethical questions, but then I would argue that the
        whole damn thing is infantile and unethical; in fact having no basis
        in reality, let alone any viable historicity. I guess I have no
        interest in being respectable, or infantile, or unethical. Two hundred
        years is a piss-hole in the snow compared to six thousand or so.
        Everybody makes deals. Jesus `ll make one too; because, even though he
        is dead, his lawyers continue to have to make a living. Like Rice
        (Anne not Condi) I have always viewed Christianity as the vampire
        nation. That little promise - "drink of my blood and live forever" -
        is not so easy to flush away. (At least our post-modern art has seen
        fit to amply express it.) It is an esoteric pact, and the resulting
        zombies are ill equipped to pragmatics. It remains to be seen whether
        capitalism can muster the brutality to extirpate them. Shooting for
        the wallet may prove as ineffective as shooting for the head in the
        end. They keep coming like stoned suburban Ghandis, all lined up in
        neat little rows of desperation to fall for Vlad and that kind of
        permanent foot-kissing, vein-opening, sparkly, brain-deadening,
        blood-drinking. I suspect it will be left to evolution (an actual
        aiming for the balls), and given this morbid combination of factors,
        the end of the vector may well be the stupified "whimper" of Eliot.
        The timing is off in this century. If you and I are to do anything for
        the species; it is to re-synchronize it to time. I have swallowed
        blood. It turns black and utterly sour in the stomach. But then, one
        can vomit; and drink again in that bulimic obsession of faith; no need
        to consider that it may run out. It's a fantasy. It can't. We make it
        and/or let it be made, by being out of step. Helluva thing.

        INTELLECTUALS DO NOT SET POLICY.

        Trinidad


        --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "bhvwd" <v.valleywestdental@...> wrote:
        >
        > Trinidad, I see many coming to philosophical crisis. The iron willed
        > certitude of many faith based people is not forcing the future they
        > foretold. This is a true crisis of faith, sort of the leap of faith
        > in reverse.
        > The science has been brutally efficient. As we become more precise,
        > more powerful in execution, the sheer power of the scientific method
        > shines out for all to see. Those who can think in a scientific mode,
        > produce a reliable product, know it is not accidental that they often
        > succeed. Those who blunder ahead on faith are coming to the end of
        > their competitive possibilities. Six years into this crusade the
        > worthless affectations of the dying core of the neoconservatives are
        > stuffed down the necks of moderate people. The base is puffed up,
        > agitated, hypersensitive. A smart politician can and probably will
        > burst the base. New, possibly radical group identities will emerge
        > and we will test the model against the world of tomorrow. The bone
        > boxes from jesus land are only a metaphor for the tipping argument
        > against faith. Priests are leaping to the defense of the illogical
        > while from institutions of higher learning professors of theology
        > are enthralled. It is just the old smoke screen and the guy on the
        > bulge in the bell curve knows it isn`t working. Strom Thurmans
        > black boy knows about the clan and understands in a free society you
        > don`t wear hoods. You don`t wear the birka, you don`t take the veil.
        > The right is gagging on all this and it is way overdue. This last
        > gristly gasp of panic should be savored by the long suffering ,tin
        > horn atheist. Turn, turn, turn, Bill
        >
      • Trinidad Cruz
        Hey Bill, I watched the innocuous docudrama on the bone boxes last Sunday. Quite written down for the masses, kinda anti-sundayschool . The Koppel show
        Message 3 of 3 , Mar 11 9:51 AM
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          Hey Bill,
          I watched the innocuous "docudrama" on the bone boxes last Sunday.
          Quite written down for the masses, kinda "anti-sundayschool". The
          Koppel show after was fun and more informative. One could clearly see
          the political rift at the top. The animosity was pungent. There is a
          rift in policy for sure. I hope I live long enough to see the crap
          really begin to stink. Maybe then we'll have some real sewage treatment.

          tc

          --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "bhvwd" <v.valleywestdental@...> wrote:
          >
          > Trinidad, I see many coming to philosophical crisis. The iron willed
          > certitude of many faith based people is not forcing the future they
          > foretold. This is a true crisis of faith, sort of the leap of faith
          > in reverse.
          > The science has been brutally efficient. As we become more precise,
          > more powerful in execution, the sheer power of the scientific method
          > shines out for all to see. Those who can think in a scientific mode,
          > produce a reliable product, know it is not accidental that they often
          > succeed. Those who blunder ahead on faith are coming to the end of
          > their competitive possibilities. Six years into this crusade the
          > worthless affectations of the dying core of the neoconservatives are
          > stuffed down the necks of moderate people. The base is puffed up,
          > agitated, hypersensitive. A smart politician can and probably will
          > burst the base. New, possibly radical group identities will emerge
          > and we will test the model against the world of tomorrow. The bone
          > boxes from jesus land are only a metaphor for the tipping argument
          > against faith. Priests are leaping to the defense of the illogical
          > while from institutions of higher learning professors of theology
          > are enthralled. It is just the old smoke screen and the guy on the
          > bulge in the bell curve knows it isn`t working. Strom Thurmans
          > black boy knows about the clan and understands in a free society you
          > don`t wear hoods. You don`t wear the birka, you don`t take the veil.
          > The right is gagging on all this and it is way overdue. This last
          > gristly gasp of panic should be savored by the long suffering ,tin
          > horn atheist. Turn, turn, turn, Bill
          >
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