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  • louise
    UK politics has been infiltrated by Infatuation. What has this got to do with existlist? What did politics ever have to do with existlist? I like philosophy,
    Message 1 of 12 , Feb 24, 2006
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      UK politics has been infiltrated by Infatuation. What has this got to
      do with existlist? What did politics ever have to do with existlist?
      I like philosophy, poetry, music. Conversation. Even though I've
      been here over two years, I'm a relatively young member. Where is
      everybody?? Cyberspace - what the hell is it? What are we all
      doing? Different things, I guess. The individual defines
      everything. Someone call me a parrot? Well, that would be a new one.

      louise
      ... confused existential nooist
    • peno hardesty
      cyberspace does not really exist,louise, but our thoughts and our actions do. reality is harsh and stark,brutal and exhilarating. where ever there is thought
      Message 2 of 12 , Feb 24, 2006
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        cyberspace does not really exist,louise, but our
        thoughts and our actions do. reality is harsh and
        stark,brutal and exhilarating. where ever there is
        thought there is.......you are,louise----i
        am-----cyberspace is a illusion of the delusion that
        many believe in----be grateful,louise that you are
        not---

        --- louise <hecubatoher@...> wrote:

        > UK politics has been infiltrated by Infatuation.
        > What has this got to
        > do with existlist? What did politics ever have to
        > do with existlist?
        > I like philosophy, poetry, music. Conversation.
        > Even though I've
        > been here over two years, I'm a relatively young
        > member. Where is
        > everybody?? Cyberspace - what the hell is it? What
        > are we all
        > doing? Different things, I guess. The individual
        > defines
        > everything. Someone call me a parrot? Well, that
        > would be a new one.
        >
        > louise
        > ... confused existential nooist
        >
        >
        >
        >
        >

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      • Susan Schnelbach
        Not everyone checks in on a daily basis, Louise. Take it easy and start up an intelligent conversation. Maybe some of the lurkers will join in. Toss out a
        Message 3 of 12 , Feb 24, 2006
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          Not everyone checks in on a daily basis, Louise. Take it easy and
          start up an intelligent conversation. Maybe some of the lurkers will
          join in.

          Toss out a topic and see bites.


          On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:17 PM, louise wrote:

          > UK politics has been infiltrated by Infatuation. What has this got to
          > do with existlist? What did politics ever have to do with existlist?
          > I like philosophy, poetry, music. Conversation. Even though I've
          > been here over two years, I'm a relatively young member. Where is
          > everybody?? Cyberspace - what the hell is it? What are we all
          > doing? Different things, I guess. The individual defines
          > everything. Someone call me a parrot? Well, that would be a new one.
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          > louise
          > ... confused existential nooist
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        • Knott
          ... louise, But let me just expand on my post that did not show up...I typed for some time, considered...hit send, and then two days later checked back to find
          Message 4 of 12 , Feb 26, 2006
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            > UK politics has been infiltrated by Infatuation. What has this got to
            > do with existlist? What did politics ever have to do with existlist?
            > I like philosophy, poetry, music. Conversation. Even though I've
            > been here over two years, I'm a relatively young member. Where is
            > everybody?? Cyberspace - what the hell is it? What are we all
            > doing? Different things, I guess. The individual defines
            > everything. Someone call me a parrot? Well, that would be a new one.

            louise,

            But let me just expand on my post that did not show up...I typed for some time,
            considered...hit send, and then two days later checked back to find my response not there.
            I was busy...at a hotel where i was not familiar...And in the interim, what I thought i had
            sent was the perfect answer to all you were asking--though it is much different than what
            I type now, which is perhaps even better.

            There is not predictability that any post can drive and motivate another to respond when
            we post anything to our imaginary group. I have oft enough hit send and disposed of
            considered responses when the login has timed out, and it may well again. and I never
            have the gift to be ale to retype them...or in the case where there is a thought and not a
            response, to put them to type. I assume I am not alone, but I might be. and then in the
            case where i want to say it again, I would wonder if it is worth the effort to retype the old
            response...or move on. I expect you could guess that from my perspective, it is far less
            valuable to make a point to the person on the other end who may be my imagination than
            to follow with something saying I did respond but it never did arrive...and leaving you to
            wonder if I did, or if I made it up or if it twas all a fiction. and if it had happened to
            me...how many others on that day might have? and would any have felt so inspired to
            repeat what they had typed?

            I assure you I responded to your message days ago, and it never arrived. It may be that
            you never expected it, and will never miss it. Like a message in a bottle tossed into the
            sea, mine had swelled with water beyond the breaking pont and floated to the deep...and
            there but for the idea that i had typed it, and that i remember it...it is nothing.

            And my guess is that this happens every day. That many see a word to say that they never
            do...and that fewer bring a word at all. Sometimes too busy, this life. Sometimes too
            disinterested with another. And many times there is too much more to pretend that this
            pretend is the pretand that we pretend.

            Calling Captain Parrot
          • louise
            knott ... ... in the interim, what I thought i had sent was the perfect answer to all you were asking--though it is much different than what I type now, which
            Message 5 of 12 , Feb 27, 2006
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              knott ...
              ... in the interim, what I thought i had sent was the perfect answer
              to all you were asking--though it is much different than what
              I type now, which is perhaps even better.

              goodness knows, how could any human being give a perfect answer to
              all i was asking, whatever that means. seems i was foolish enough
              to join an existential list in hopes of discussing work by
              Kierkegaard and Nietzsche, with the end result of acquiring
              experience of states of mind i would not wish on my worst enemy.
              like i said before, long time gone, i find the societal norms in USA
              seriously sick, and do not wish to have to consider them, unless
              there is philosophical pertinence.
              louise
              ... just waiting, for whatever is worth waiting for, if it is

              and thankyou for your kindness, though i understood little beyond
              your account of computer frustrations.
            • Knott
              ... I was joking. I don t believe in perfect answers...perhaps with the exception of those that aren t made. ... I put more words to it than I should have. It
              Message 6 of 12 , Feb 27, 2006
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                > how could any human being give a perfect answer to
                > all i was asking, whatever that means.

                I was joking. I don't believe in perfect answers...perhaps with the
                exception of those that aren't made.

                > and thankyou for your kindness, though i understood little beyond
                > your account of computer frustrations.

                I put more words to it than I should have. It was simply a version
                of an answer to part of your post "Cyberspace - what the hell is
                it? What are we all doing?" I suggested in the now imaginary
                response that we were all doing what we found pleasing: some enter
                politic because it is what they enjoy and they feel it is important
                that it have a part in their philosophy. To them it belongs. For me
                nonsense belongs. I mix my politics with nonsense: for example I
                advocate a destructionist government that disassembles itself. Fat
                chance that will ever happen, because everyone would end up firing
                themselves. But my fat chance doesn't belong here either--however
                skinny.

                As Shrek said, "ogres are like onions." To me it meant we all
                consider ourselves more complex than we really are, yet we keep
                ripping at the stinking peels and crying.

                Doctor Quackenbush
              • Bobconkawi@aol.com
                I have not been following your discussion, but I can tell you what politics is for. My mother s uncle Walt taught the whole clan back in the 30 s. He needed
                Message 7 of 12 , Feb 27, 2006
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                  I have not been following your discussion, but I can tell you what politics is for. My mother's uncle Walt taught the whole clan back in the '30's. He needed a road to run by his house, so he got elected to the state legislature. My aunt, following his lead, made a career as executive assistant to a senator from Idaho. She married a man who partied the whole time he served his one term in congress, then made a career as a liquor lobbyist when he lost his bid for re-election. Bob

                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: Knott <knott12@...>
                  To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
                  Sent: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:58:31 -0000
                  Subject: [existlist] Re: more nonsense is better nonsense


                  > how could any human being give a perfect answer to
                  > all i was asking, whatever that means.

                  I was joking. I don't believe in perfect answers...perhaps with the
                  exception of those that aren't made.

                  > and thankyou for your kindness, though i understood little beyond
                  > your account of computer frustrations.

                  I put more words to it than I should have. It was simply a version
                  of an answer to part of your post "Cyberspace - what the hell is
                  it? What are we all doing?" I suggested in the now imaginary
                  response that we were all doing what we found pleasing: some enter
                  politic because it is what they enjoy and they feel it is important
                  that it have a part in their philosophy. To them it belongs. For me
                  nonsense belongs. I mix my politics with nonsense: for example I
                  advocate a destructionist government that disassembles itself. Fat
                  chance that will ever happen, because everyone would end up firing
                  themselves. But my fat chance doesn't belong here either--however
                  skinny.

                  As Shrek said, "ogres are like onions." To me it meant we all
                  consider ourselves more complex than we really are, yet we keep
                  ripping at the stinking peels and crying.

                  Doctor Quackenbush





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                • louise
                  hey, can t believe it. do we have a conversation starting up?? so confused i gotta start unambitious. i ll play devil, not advocate, and remark, sure are
                  Message 8 of 12 , Feb 27, 2006
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                    hey, can't believe it. do we have a conversation starting up?? so
                    confused i gotta start unambitious. i'll play devil, not advocate,
                    and remark, sure are more nations on earth than good ol' USA.


                    --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, Bobconkawi@... wrote:
                    >
                    > I have not been following your discussion, but I can tell you what
                    politics is for. My mother's uncle Walt taught the whole clan back
                    in the '30's. He needed a road to run by his house, so he got
                    elected to the state legislature. My aunt, following his lead, made
                    a career as executive assistant to a senator from Idaho. She married
                    a man who partied the whole time he served his one term in congress,
                    then made a career as a liquor lobbyist when he lost his bid for re-
                    election. Bob
                    >
                    > -----Original Message-----
                    > From: Knott <knott12@...>
                    > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
                    > Sent: Mon, 27 Feb 2006 19:58:31 -0000
                    > Subject: [existlist] Re: more nonsense is better nonsense
                    >
                    >
                    > > how could any human being give a perfect answer to
                    > > all i was asking, whatever that means.
                    >
                    > I was joking. I don't believe in perfect answers...perhaps with
                    the
                    > exception of those that aren't made.
                    >
                    > > and thankyou for your kindness, though i understood little
                    beyond
                    > > your account of computer frustrations.
                    >
                    > I put more words to it than I should have. It was simply a version
                    > of an answer to part of your post "Cyberspace - what the hell is
                    > it? What are we all doing?" I suggested in the now imaginary
                    > response that we were all doing what we found pleasing: some enter
                    > politic because it is what they enjoy and they feel it is
                    important
                    > that it have a part in their philosophy. To them it belongs. For
                    me
                    > nonsense belongs. I mix my politics with nonsense: for example I
                    > advocate a destructionist government that disassembles itself. Fat
                    > chance that will ever happen, because everyone would end up firing
                    > themselves. But my fat chance doesn't belong here either--however
                    > skinny.
                    >
                    > As Shrek said, "ogres are like onions." To me it meant we all
                    > consider ourselves more complex than we really are, yet we keep
                    > ripping at the stinking peels and crying.
                    >
                    > Doctor Quackenbush
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > Please support the Existential Primer... dedicated to explaining
                    nothing!
                    >
                    > Home Page: http://www.tameri.com/csw/exist
                    > Yahoo! Groups Links
                    >
                    >
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                    >
                    >
                    >
                    > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
                    >
                  • Knott
                    ... Perhaps, but few that are nearly so full of themselves and few with such huge media operations that push the concept to all the budding receptors on the
                    Message 9 of 12 , Feb 28, 2006
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                      > sure are more nations on earth than good ol' USA.

                      Perhaps, but few that are nearly so full of themselves and few with such huge media
                      operations that push the concept to all the budding receptors on the planet, and fewer
                      that stick their military's nose into every street market squabble over rudabegas. It is
                      precisely the political agenda that is the root cause of skirmish, whereas if we built no
                      walls and were less afraid to protect whatever it is that we are protecting, there would be
                      even less to protect, fewer walls, and perhaps a little self-sufficiency (which might be
                      related, thinly, to existentialism).

                      Like a bored housewife whose children have gone off to college and whose husband has
                      died of the stress of paying for it, there is little for a politic to examine. The boredom
                      turns to spying on the neighbors, gossip over the fence, and an inherent paranioa that
                      there is something, somewhere, 'going on' and that is is somehow an advantage to find
                      out about it--be it fact or fiction, a hint is the truth.

                      But is it that even smaller nations would benefit from a lack of government and wall
                      building? One might look at the middle east where imaginary borders and the decided
                      placement of an imaginary line literally in the sand can lead to hatred, military strikes,
                      hatred, armament and hatred. They might do better with more My Mother's Uncle Walt.

                      I think in the states we laugh just as heartily at our government as in other nations while
                      weeping from the peeling onion. When reagan 'got the part' it should have been clear that
                      the greatest achievement of power was to become a talking head, and it is no surprise that
                      more actors are politicians these days.

                      How can we laugh at a dog chasing its tail? It is absurd nonsense to watch. It is always
                      best when the tail is just out of reach so the dog in persuit never finds out by whom the
                      tail is owned.

                      Napping Katz
                    • greg goodwin
                      You left out superficial ideaism and the chase of the easy dollar (at any cost!!)which appear to be prevalent in this country.
                      Message 10 of 12 , Feb 28, 2006
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                        You left out superficial ideaism and the chase of the
                        easy dollar (at any cost!!)which appear to be
                        prevalent in this country.


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                      • Knott
                        ... It depends on how you interpret. I thought I had covered such in the bit about the dog and its tail...when the richest country continues to chase its
                        Message 11 of 12 , Feb 28, 2006
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                          > You left out superficial ideaism and the chase of the
                          > easy dollar (at any cost!!)which appear to be
                          > prevalent in this country.

                          It depends on how you interpret. I thought I had covered such in the bit about the dog and its
                          tail...when the 'richest' country continues to chase its own, it loses track of where the real
                          meal is. Not that I like playing politic or economics, but it seems to me that if you look to
                          feed on your own, not only are there crumbs that get away, but you are left with less once
                          you have ingested and digested.

                          A wet poodle in your lap every time.

                          Frenobulax
                        • greg goodwin
                          I stand corrected!! I work in the mental health field and took a break from the group for a few years for more focused concentration in my work and now I feel
                          Message 12 of 12 , Mar 2, 2006
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                            I stand corrected!!
                            I work in the mental health field and took a break
                            from the group for a few years for more focused
                            concentration in my work and now I feel my
                            philosophical edge has disappeared. Rereading you
                            indeed covered my rash additions. Guess I need to read
                            more and write less!!

                            G


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