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  • louise
    ... This might be one point of departure, Mary Jo, for civil argument, if that is where it must start. I admit to being often confused - and also to know why
    Message 1 of 3 , Dec 1, 2005
      > We can't control the elements, but we think we can control human
      > beings who are needlessly confused and complex.


      This might be one point of departure, Mary Jo, for civil argument,
      if that is where it must start. I admit to being often confused -
      and also to know why that is - complex, as well, yes, like every
      human life. What I don't understand are your pronouns. Reads to
      me, an individualist and liberal, like a socialistic statement in
      the political realm. Those who think they can control human beings
      are my enemies. I may not love contemporary democracy - it is such
      a sham, so cruel - but I do love freedom. Each man, each woman,
      must think for his own self. I like the sentence I just wrote,
      though grammatically it is not quite logical. It is tension I
      trust, not ease, in philosophical waters. Because I am
      existentialist. Definitely not a game, nor a gentle discipline.
      Reality is where I start. That hurts so much, it leads me into
      confusion.

      Louise
      ... unpolitical thinker
    • Exist List Moderator
      ... One of the great lies we tell ourselves: I don t care what other people think. Of course we all do, even if we only care what a lover or best friend
      Message 2 of 3 , Dec 2, 2005
        On Dec 01, 2005, at 5:11, mer_e_jo wrote:

        > I wonder. What would it be like not to be so concerned about how
        > others think and feel; to prefer not to be understood and defined by
        > others; to allow others to be other.

        One of the great lies we tell ourselves: "I don't care what other
        people think." Of course we all do, even if we only care what a lover
        or best friend thinks of us -- we still care. I care a lot about what
        my best friend thinks... I trust her more than I trust my own mind.

        I'd love to not care what my professors and fellow instructors think of
        me. I would love to imagine the opinions of other teachers are
        meaningless. In reality, I must care because I am compared to them when
        new contracts are awarded each semester. We are always being compared
        to others, and we are comparing people. We must make choices, which
        means we have to evaluate and judge other people based on specific
        criteria.

        We are evaluated on scales. I am a better teacher than some, less
        skilled than others. I fall into the spectrum of teachers, just as
        there are ranges of poets, painters, and composers. Sure, I would love
        to say it doesn't matter to me, but it does.

        - C. S. Wyatt
        I am what I am at this moment, not what I was and certainly not all
        that I shall be.
        http://www.tameri.com - Tameri Guide for Writers
        http://www.tameri.com/csw/exist - The Existential Primer
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