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Re: [existlist] Discursive taboos- sexual politics

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  • Aija Veldre Beldavs
    ... on the contrary. let it all hang out, man. go for the all-male chorus monologue. factoids: 1st Estonian song festival held 1869 tweaking German
    Message 1 of 2 , Aug 31, 2005
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      > I guess suppressive, disdainful and dismissive comments like this come
      > to the fore when people (males?) want to discuss sexual politics in
      > *any* forum :-). Isn't that the point of Frank's comments? Thanks for
      > *proving* it. mattP

      on the contrary. let it all hang out, man. go for the all-male chorus
      monologue. <g>

      factoids: 1st Estonian song festival held 1869 tweaking German
      aristocratic choral model to demonstrate culture of the "uncultured" as
      also peoples. (bauern don't need no education, bauern don't need no finer
      sensibilities, they just work the land.) following Estonian lead, 1st
      Latvian song festival held 1873 tweaking model further by including female
      choirs as was the custom of those uncultured peoples.

      consistent with the example of Finland, Baltic states included women's
      suffrage as part of their declaration of independence in 1918 (acquired by
      battling both German freikorps and Bolshevist Russia). two Latvian women
      were awarded military honors for service in combat units in WWI (not the
      norm, but an indication that small societies can be flexible).

      aija,
      rechecked as to males in family, friends, and world: affirmative.
    • Aija Veldre Beldavs
      ... you don t believe in tit for tat reciprocity?:) ... when one side speaks for the other, the other can be a prop, no sound needed.:) check out the drum and
      Message 2 of 2 , Aug 31, 2005
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        On Wed, 31 Aug 2005, matthew_piscioneri wrote:

        > Again, sigh, disdain & attempted humiliation :-)

        you don't believe in tit for tat reciprocity?:)

        >> let it all hang out, man. go for the all-male chorus monologue.
        > Why is it a monologue?

        when one side speaks for the other, the other can be a prop, no sound
        needed.:)

        check out the drum and bagpipe folk ensemble "Aulji" two samples. drums
        and bagpipe are of course characteristically European men's (instrumental)
        music (bagpipes are not a Scottish monopoly - note similarities, though!).
        the first from the music festival "Baltic Sun 2004" shows a female
        bagpiper, the second (2003 concert in Liepaja) has a younger girl playing
        bagpipes and interaction with traditional regional womens' singing groups
        who were the original basis of Latvian national folk music.

        <http://auli.lv>

        there are links to other music sites from there also.

        aija
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