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  • bhvwd
    Friedman , of the NYT, is not known for his acceptance of conservative positions, but even he sees hope beginning to shine in the bloodbath of the middle
    Message 1 of 3 , Feb 27, 2005
      Friedman , of the NYT, is not known for his acceptance of
      conservative positions, but even he sees hope beginning to shine in
      the bloodbath of the middle east.
      I speak about this because the wars for resources are clearly the
      most critical issues for mankind in this early part of this new
      century. This is about the further ascendance of modern man or a
      regression to atrophied systems of a millenia ago.
      This problem,its myriad of factional sub units, and its free flow
      progression of situation, is the greatest challenge of modern
      philosophy we have witnessed since the decision to affront National
      Socialism in the 1940`s.
      It`s resolution is still in the balance but Friedman thinks the
      situation has tipped in a positive way. The fulcrum concept in this
      densly complex situation is the primacy of progressive thought over
      the doctrines of ancient systems.
      As in the fortys the adversary protrayed himself as revolutionary
      and progressive in rectifying social ills visted on vast numbers
      of people. The Weimar Republic was as easy a target for Hitler as
      are the corrupt governments of the mid east.Ben Laudin`s call for
      social change drew great praise from progressive factions of many
      creeds.Many considered wahaabism as a necessary reaction of islam
      to social oppression and western colonialism.At one point Joeseph P.
      Kennedy considered Hitler a necessary reaction to injustice visited
      upon the Germain people by WW1.This recent conflict was complexified
      by ancient divisions of christianity and islam and in the western
      world bitter debate as to social policy regarding energy .In an
      unexpected alliance of strange bedfellows , christian, progressive
      environmentalists embraced the islamic radical factions. Then all
      was turned over by 911 as the invasion of Poland by Hitler
      startled the world into realisation of new common cause. Now as then
      some few still cling to causalities born of faded illusions ,
      politics and dogma.They should be reasoned into acceptance of the
      path of better reality.Still this is a contest of ideas, not
      bullets, hope not religous worship and survival not endless
      destruction.Now we should join to finish the job of revamping the
      corrupt governments of the old islamic world. The quicker we all
      demand peaceful inclusion of all middle eastern peoples in
      democracys of their own fashioning, the sooner all can abandon the
      persistant fear of endless terrorism.There is money and markets a
      plenty if resources are allocated with fairness and discretion.
      I think we should all consider this necessity of adoption of the
      endless orphans of compromise this situations demands.The direction
      must allow for a future for all of rational purpose.Bill
    • Siobhan
      Bill, It really was an encouraging article. Even this day s events in Lebanon, Israel & Iraq indicate we are moving further towards daylight in such a dark and
      Message 2 of 3 , Feb 28, 2005
        Bill,

        It really was an encouraging article. Even this day's events in
        Lebanon, Israel & Iraq indicate we are moving further towards
        daylight in such a dark and violent time, even amidst increasing
        horrors. I don't think even the existentialist writers would condone
        the senseless terrorism in our world. It's one thing to argue about
        which economic or political system is most efficacious, but it's
        quite another to embrace anarchy, a direction with no practical aim
        for the future. What do the madmen wish to create? Nothing.

        Siobhan

        --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "bhvwd" <v.valleywestdental@m...>
        wrote:
        >
        > Friedman , of the NYT, is not known for his acceptance of
        > conservative positions, but even he sees hope beginning to shine
        in
        > the bloodbath of the middle east.
        > I speak about this because the wars for resources are clearly the
        > most critical issues for mankind in this early part of this new
        > century. This is about the further ascendance of modern man or a
        > regression to atrophied systems of a millenia ago.
        > This problem,its myriad of factional sub units, and its free flow
        > progression of situation, is the greatest challenge of modern
        > philosophy we have witnessed since the decision to affront National
        > Socialism in the 1940`s.
        > It`s resolution is still in the balance but Friedman thinks the
        > situation has tipped in a positive way. The fulcrum concept in
        this
        > densly complex situation is the primacy of progressive thought over
        > the doctrines of ancient systems.
        > As in the fortys the adversary protrayed himself as revolutionary
        > and progressive in rectifying social ills visted on vast numbers
        > of people. The Weimar Republic was as easy a target for Hitler as
        > are the corrupt governments of the mid east.Ben Laudin`s call for
        > social change drew great praise from progressive factions of many
        > creeds.Many considered wahaabism as a necessary reaction of islam
        > to social oppression and western colonialism.At one point Joeseph
        P.
        > Kennedy considered Hitler a necessary reaction to injustice visited
        > upon the Germain people by WW1.This recent conflict was
        complexified
        > by ancient divisions of christianity and islam and in the western
        > world bitter debate as to social policy regarding energy .In an
        > unexpected alliance of strange bedfellows , christian, progressive
        > environmentalists embraced the islamic radical factions. Then all
        > was turned over by 911 as the invasion of Poland by Hitler
        > startled the world into realisation of new common cause. Now as
        then
        > some few still cling to causalities born of faded illusions ,
        > politics and dogma.They should be reasoned into acceptance of the
        > path of better reality.Still this is a contest of ideas, not
        > bullets, hope not religous worship and survival not endless
        > destruction.Now we should join to finish the job of revamping the
        > corrupt governments of the old islamic world. The quicker we all
        > demand peaceful inclusion of all middle eastern peoples in
        > democracys of their own fashioning, the sooner all can abandon the
        > persistant fear of endless terrorism.There is money and markets a
        > plenty if resources are allocated with fairness and discretion.
        > I think we should all consider this necessity of adoption of the
        > endless orphans of compromise this situations demands.The
        direction
        > must allow for a future for all of rational purpose.Bill
      • louise
        ... This is their humility, from which we in the West should learn. I never speak as a politician but as a prophet, in regard to politics, or else as a
        Message 3 of 3 , Mar 1, 2005
          >What do the madmen wish to create? Nothing.

          This is their humility, from which we in the West should learn. I
          never speak as a politician but as a prophet, in regard to politics,
          or else as a commentator. It is my belief that the feeble-hearted
          Christians and the unreligious Zionist jews have contributed to loss
          of memory in the Muslim brothers and sisters of Arabia and the mid-
          east. Thus they slaughter one another. 'We' Europeans and
          Americans have made our contribution ... to them losing their faith
          and their minds. The bloodshed should stop, for they kill their own
          as well as ours.

          Echt Zarathustra
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