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Does nothing have existence?

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  • sorenkierkagaard
    1. The termination of one s existence may not be an option for those who fear possible punishment in the next world even though to sophisticated minds this
    Message 1 of 4 , Nov 11, 2003
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      1. The termination of one's existence may not be an option for
      those who fear possible punishment in the next world even though to
      sophisticated minds this sounds like a superstitious and silly idea
      2. God may appear to be sadistic but this isn't evidence that He
      doesn't exist only evidence that He lacks compassion.
    • drQ
      1. The termination of one s existence may not be an option for those who possess sophisticated minds who do not believe in punishment after death. 2. If he
      Message 2 of 4 , Nov 12, 2003
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        1. The termination of one's existence may not be an option for those who
        possess sophisticated minds who do not believe in punishment after death.
        2. If he exists, then he is not only sadistic, he is stupid too. Given all
        these powers and billions of years, couldn't he have done better than
        this!!?



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        > 1. The termination of one's existence may not be an option for
        > those who fear possible punishment in the next world even though to
        > sophisticated minds this sounds like a superstitious and silly idea
        > 2. God may appear to be sadistic but this isn't evidence that He
        > doesn't exist only evidence that He lacks compassion.
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      • Rakwena Mogoai
        Suicide is not a denial of the will to life, says Schopenhauer. To the contrary, suicide is an affirmation of the will, because the essence of negation lies in
        Message 3 of 4 , Nov 12, 2003
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          Suicide is not a denial of the will to life, says Schopenhauer. To the
          contrary, suicide is an affirmation of the will, because the essence of
          negation lies in rejecting happiness rather than rejecting suffering.
          Suicide does not deny the will to life, but only the conditions under which
          life is given. Suicide is a surrender of life, but not the will to life. The
          individual who commits suicide gives up living, but does not give up
          willing. In the act of suicide, the will affirms itself, even though it puts
          an end to its individual manifestation.

          Only by knowledge of its own manifestation can the will suspend or negate
          itself. The denial of the will to life is not a will to absolute
          nothingness, because nothingness is only a negation of something.
          Nothingness is only an absence of being, and thus any negation is in
          relation to being, and is only a relative nothingness. Nothingness is a
          negation of the world as idea, an absence of objectification of the will.
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        • steve olden
          Funny surprise seeing Schopenhauer quoted on a page devoted to existentialist thinking since his beliefs seem to conflict with the idea that will is completely
          Message 4 of 4 , Nov 12, 2003
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            Funny surprise seeing Schopenhauer quoted on a page devoted to existentialist thinking since his beliefs seem to conflict with the idea that will is completely or even partially free. If nothing is absence of being it certainly exists for the state of being certainly exists doesn�t it?


            Rakwena Mogoai <RakwenaM@...> wrote:Suicide is not a denial of the will to life, says Schopenhauer. To the
            contrary, suicide is an affirmation of the will, because the essence of
            negation lies in rejecting happiness rather than rejecting suffering.
            Suicide does not deny the will to life, but only the conditions under which
            life is given. Suicide is a surrender of life, but not the will to life. The
            individual who commits suicide gives up living, but does not give up
            willing. In the act of suicide, the will affirms itself, even though it puts
            an end to its individual manifestation.

            Only by knowledge of its own manifestation can the will suspend or negate
            itself. The denial of the will to life is not a will to absolute
            nothingness, because nothingness is only a negation of something.
            Nothingness is only an absence of being, and thus any negation is in
            relation to being, and is only a relative nothingness. Nothingness is a
            negation of the world as idea, an absence of objectification of the will.
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