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Re: LANGUAGE & TRUTH

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  • Mary Jo Malo
    Biggie, I agree :) Mary Jo ... Service.
    Message 1 of 40 , Aug 19, 2003
      Biggie,

      I agree :)

      Mary Jo

      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, George Walton <iambiguously@y...>
      wrote:
      > Mary,
      >
      > Yes.
      >
      > Biggie
      >
      > Mary Jo Malo <alcyon11@y...> wrote:
      > Biggie, eduard,
      >
      > Upon what Law should we base our Law? Common sense and the golden
      > rule, or what some people thought some god said 10,000 years ago?
      >
      > Mary Jo
      >
      > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eduard at home <yeoman@v...>
      wrote:
      > > Biggie,
      > >
      > > > I am, in fact, making the distinction between a world in
      > > which God exists and a world in which he does not. So, why
      > > in the world, then, would you ask me where he has been
      > > regarding mistreated animals in all the years before we ask
      > > him? It is a hypothetical distinction. Who knows, maybe he
      > > was waiting for someone to actually find him first before
      > > bestowing his omniscience. Maybe it is part of his
      > > "mysterious ways". Maybe his omniscience only works when he
      > > gets within a certain number of light years from planet
      > > Earth and he hasn't been around lately because it is an
      > > awful big universe. The point is that, with God in the
      > > picture, the Final Arbiter exists, without God we have only
      > > The Law to sanction and punish those who break it and, of
      > > couse, the endless squabbles that we have in here regarding
      > > not only the nature of human moral interaction but the
      > > actual behaviors to be construed as right or wrong. Which,
      > > of course, reduces moral philosophy from the Will Of God to
      > > "says who?!"
      > >
      > > ---> But do we not have this situation anyway?? My question
      > > of where God has been, still applies. You are saying that
      > > the "Final Arbiter exists", yet it really doesn't make any
      > > difference, if he/she/it does not fulfill this role through
      > > some act of arbitration. Animals have been mistreated in
      > > some fashion or other, since the dawn of man. Or, if you
      > > wish, you can substitute any other moral issue. In our
      > > existential existence, we are left alone to resolve our
      > > squabbles as best we can. And yes, it is often the case
      > > that, "The Law and our own Good Will are all that stands
      > > between civilzation and anarchy". If I am wrong in this
      > > conclusion, then please identify an instance where God has
      > > stepped in to resolve a moral issue.
      > >
      > > eduard
      >
      >
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    • Mary Jo Malo
      Biggie, I agree :) Mary Jo ... Service.
      Message 40 of 40 , Aug 19, 2003
        Biggie,

        I agree :)

        Mary Jo

        --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, George Walton <iambiguously@y...>
        wrote:
        > Mary,
        >
        > Yes.
        >
        > Biggie
        >
        > Mary Jo Malo <alcyon11@y...> wrote:
        > Biggie, eduard,
        >
        > Upon what Law should we base our Law? Common sense and the golden
        > rule, or what some people thought some god said 10,000 years ago?
        >
        > Mary Jo
        >
        > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, eduard at home <yeoman@v...>
        wrote:
        > > Biggie,
        > >
        > > > I am, in fact, making the distinction between a world in
        > > which God exists and a world in which he does not. So, why
        > > in the world, then, would you ask me where he has been
        > > regarding mistreated animals in all the years before we ask
        > > him? It is a hypothetical distinction. Who knows, maybe he
        > > was waiting for someone to actually find him first before
        > > bestowing his omniscience. Maybe it is part of his
        > > "mysterious ways". Maybe his omniscience only works when he
        > > gets within a certain number of light years from planet
        > > Earth and he hasn't been around lately because it is an
        > > awful big universe. The point is that, with God in the
        > > picture, the Final Arbiter exists, without God we have only
        > > The Law to sanction and punish those who break it and, of
        > > couse, the endless squabbles that we have in here regarding
        > > not only the nature of human moral interaction but the
        > > actual behaviors to be construed as right or wrong. Which,
        > > of course, reduces moral philosophy from the Will Of God to
        > > "says who?!"
        > >
        > > ---> But do we not have this situation anyway?? My question
        > > of where God has been, still applies. You are saying that
        > > the "Final Arbiter exists", yet it really doesn't make any
        > > difference, if he/she/it does not fulfill this role through
        > > some act of arbitration. Animals have been mistreated in
        > > some fashion or other, since the dawn of man. Or, if you
        > > wish, you can substitute any other moral issue. In our
        > > existential existence, we are left alone to resolve our
        > > squabbles as best we can. And yes, it is often the case
        > > that, "The Law and our own Good Will are all that stands
        > > between civilzation and anarchy". If I am wrong in this
        > > conclusion, then please identify an instance where God has
        > > stepped in to resolve a moral issue.
        > >
        > > eduard
        >
        >
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