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    ... As I stated in the parenthetical, I recognized you did not use the language, but thought I should add the note for the safety of the group. We have just
    Message 1 of 5 , May 6, 2003
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      --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, "David Leon" <dave@p...> wrote:
      > Chris,
      >
      > I dont know where you're coming from.

      > > (I know this response did not use such
      > > words, but wanted to add that warning. I appreciate it avoiding
      > > anything that might be construed as an attack on beliefs.)
      > >
      > > - CSW

      As I stated in the parenthetical, I recognized you did not use the
      language, but thought I should add the note for the safety of the
      group. We have just endured two months of accusations that we
      discriminate, as a group, against religion.

      I have stated before, in the group, that my father's family is
      Evangelical Pentecostal -- about as fundamental as one gets in
      America. My mother's heritage is a mix of Jewish and Lutheran. So,
      being accused of an anti-religion bias was upsetting to me.

      Yes, I think a discussion of culture is important -- especially as it
      applies to existentialism and phenomenology. How do we deal with Iraq
      or an existing theocracy? How can we avoid religion in government, if
      existentialism is about being true to yourself? If I am a Christian,
      Jew, or Muslim, am I not supposed to hold to those beliefs at all
      times? (Authentic, as in existentialism, calls on me to always act
      according to my core beliefs.)

      Those are difficult questions. A Shia clergy must call for a
      theocracy, since that was the basis for the Shia/Sunni break in the
      religion. How can we reconcile that and still be existential? That is
      a difficulty for "Christian Existentialism" and "Theological
      Existentialism" -- being authentic means never contradicting your
      beliefs. Therefore, a Christian Existentialist would have to belong to
      a "Christian Democratic" or "Christian Socialist" or "Christian
      Whatever" party politically.

      America, at least, does not have a tolerance for such parties.
      European systems do allow for such politics, but I am not in Europe,
      and I do not really wish to see politics and religion mixed.

      A curious cultural problem, really. What is "right" for Iraq might
      very well be "wrong" by our standards. Would not existentialism prefer
      that Iraq be allowed whatever the Iraqi people want to be authentic as
      a system? What of the minority rights problems posed by this?

      Politics and philosophy might not mix well.

      - CSW
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