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Re: [existlist] Choosing Ford or BMW

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  • Lorna Landry
    Eduard, I think I see what you mean, but I think choosing God is also a choice, and if one makes such a choice, then one also chooses that this God has an
    Message 1 of 41 , May 1, 2003
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      Eduard,
      I think I see what you mean, but I think choosing God is also a choice, and if one makes such a choice, then one also chooses that this God has an impact on choice. God has an impact on choice only for those who believe. For people who do not believe (Like yourself), God has no impact on choice.
      Lorna

      yeoman <yeoman@...> wrote:Lorna,

      Why is it not an existential choice?? My type of car
      reflects upon my existence as a person.

      In any case, I was trying to pose a question with respect to
      the statement that God has a moment by moment impact upon my
      choices. Choosing a car is a choice. These are the
      everyday things that we go through. I suppose you could
      have any other concrete example -- choosing a house,
      choosing a career, choosing how you are going to interact
      with your neighbour, etc., etc..

      We keep talking about this thing called, "existence", but it
      would appear that no one wishes to consider it for what it
      is. If God does not care what I choose for a car, then what
      does this god care about?? And in this caring, how does
      he/she/it have an impact??

      eduard

      ----- Original Message -----
      From: "Lorna Landry" <lornalandry@...>
      To: <existlist@yahoogroups.com>
      Sent: Thursday, May 01, 2003 3:17 PM
      Subject: Re: [existlist] Choosing Ford or BMW


      >
      > Eduard,
      > Your choice between cars does not really sound like an
      existential choice to me. I don't think a God would care
      either way.
      >
      > Lorna


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    • Mark and Bev Tindall
      ... I can see why you are reluictant to answer my questions on why art is a valuable resource in Existentialism. ... If begins a conditional proposition.
      Message 41 of 41 , May 2, 2003
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        eduard wrote:


        > I can see why you are reluctant to answer the
        > question.


        I can see why you are reluictant to answer my questions on why art is a valuable resource in Existentialism.


        > If I have absolute freedom [Read Chris' FAQs]


        'If' begins a conditional proposition. Chris is wrong if he says all have absolute freedom. No-one has absolute freedom. All are constrained by at least time and space.


        > As Sartre has said, it is of no importance to
        > Existentialism.


        Sartre was wrong in this area and is not the final word on anything. There are many living Existentialist philosophers who disagree with the dead Sartre.

        As Chris stated (though he is not the final word on Existentialism ...) :

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        No one should ever suggest that the Christian Existentialists (notably the Catholic movement is of interest to me), are not valid topics. They are frequently credited with developing concepts of ethics within existentialism, as well as combining Democratic Socialism with the humanistic aspects of existentialism set forth by the "French Left" for too long.

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        Christian Existentialism is Existentialist in nature.


        Mark

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