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  • Mary
    Sep 27, 2013
      Here's another video to throw in.


      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Ugb7Pdqi-U


      I'm enjoying it and look forward to your response.


      Mary


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      From: hermit crab <hermitcrab65@...>
      To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 4:02 PM
      Subject: Re: [existlist] RE: Detrimental to democracy?








      Yeah, I don't have answers.  Just thought I'd throw it into the pot.  :)


      h.


      On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Mary <josephson45r@...> wrote:
      > Thanks for the video link. It would be nice to live in this kind of vibrant democracy Graeber imagines, since our so called democracy is dominated by big money, and hence media, So many people are told which of only two perspectives they should adopt while falsely believing they are thinking for themselves. I like the idea of a participatory democracy which involves policy making by the many instead of the few wealthy. I wonder how the consensus arrived at by people who are willing to surrender their selves to a common goal would be met my the powerful. In other words, how would this consensus translate to actual powerful changes? I do lots of little things like sign petitions, but so much money is required to take issues to court and to counter special interests I fear it wouldn't work. Other than putting financial pressure on corporations through boycotts and counter advertising to cease their sponsoring of unpopular laws and policies and chairing
      >  committees and commissions in which citizens have no voice, I'm afraid any pleasure I have is small but nevertheless valuable. Where I see the existentialist topic of individuality and meaning in this video is in surrender to the common good which is also what the powerful/wealthy imagine they are accomplishing for the good of the few.
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      > Mary
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      > From: "hermitcrab65@..." <hermitcrab65@...>
      > To: existlist@yahoogroups.com
      > Sent: Friday, September 20, 2013 1:05 PM
      > Subject: [existlist] RE: Detrimental to democracy?
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      > Mary,
      > I was watching this David Graeber video a day or so ago and suddenly today it hit me that
      > he sort of addresses some of your questions here.
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      > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eR_95slEFw
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      > @hermitcrab
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      > --- In existlist@yahoogroups.com, <existlist@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
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      > Today, I suspect that Kierkegaard, Nietzsche, Heidegger, and Sartre have each in their unique way accelerated the demise of democracy. Nietzsche most clearly with his disdain for democracy; Kierkegaard with his isolationist Christianity; Heidegger with his Fatherland; and Sartre through his turn to Stalin and Mao. Though not as radically subjectivist as nihilists or postmodernists, they've been complicit in the creation of cynicism, apathy, and self-centeredness within a burgeoning corporate aristocracy. Where are our representatives in the corridors of power? Who bothers to vote? Who bothers to let their representatives hear their opinions, and why don't representatives vote their constituency? I know I haven't made a clear connection between existentialism and democracy but hoping someone can argue this. I'm disgusted with our obstructionist U.S. Congress but very anxious about their eagerness to embroil us in the Syrian and growing Middle Eastern
      >  conflagration.  Mary
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